All-Star 2020-2021: New Gyms, Closings, And Acquisitions

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I was under the impression that it's one of the MW locations that is becoming Rays. Tanya is stepping down and it is being taken over by Daniel Quick, who ran a gym in Northern KY called Matrix maybe? I've been out of Kentucky for a bit, so I may be a bit off but that's what I thought.

Yes, they are franchising the main MW (which was just sold) after the season has already started with the new Woodlands location that just opened close by. Some of these families just bought uniforms no less than a month ago… so it took me by surprise. Its an area that has pretty much been run by MW for 20 years. There are three D1 gyms in NKY, one about 20 min N in Dayton and now Stingrays and Woodlands 5 min apart. Just interesting that they’d ditch a 20 year history mid-season to sell and hitch to a big name gym.

I have ties to the area and try to stay in the loop just in case my little decides to cheer one day *crosses fingers*
 
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Random question, how close in proximity are all these new Cincy area gyms to places in KY like GymTyme? I know the two areas are closed but I wasn’t sure how close.

Louisville and Cincinnati/NKY are a good hour and a half apart, and honestly the traffic makes it a complete nightmare that I can't imagine anyone doing it unless it was a worlds situation.

However, Cincinnati is on the river, so it's a walk across the bridge to Northern KY. Any gym in NKY could be within minutes of Cincinnati.
 

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While I’d generally agree with you, Cincinnati is not big, and MW is literally a mile down the road from Woodlands recent expansion. Seems fishy that Rays would open a gym after the season has started, forcing families to buy new uniforms, changing team names. Does that happen often? It seems new locations are usually announced in the spring before tryouts? Or maybe it was a panic move by MW worried that they wouldn’t survive?

For example, Dallas is huge. More than enough athletes to support multiple gyms as it currently does. Seems like a Stingrays could easily pick off enough athletes to be profitable, but why don’t they? CA’s new locations have all been in secondary markets (Omaha, Pensacola, Rochester). They could easily open in…Atlanta and be a viable competitor based on name recognition alone. I don’t know. When you have two big names competing for a finite number of athletes, it seems like no one place will be strong…

Mergers and acquisitions usually happen with the first request being from the business owner wanting to sell or needing to sell. MW most certainly would want to get something for their business versus just shutting the doors on their staff, customers and losing everything. As far as timing, you can plan things to work out at a certain time, but legalities such as a lease on a building, or loans where the building was used as collateral, etc, etc can hold up the transaction. Lastly, Cincinnati may not be huge, but it is definitely big enough for two big name gyms to acquire and create new athletes especially with Dayton not being that far away.
 
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Does anyone know what teams Midwest/Stingrays Ohio even has? Cant wait to see how they do

Midwest had:
- Lady Carnage (S6)
- Bad Babes of Bedlam (S5)
- Masters of Mayhem (S3)
- Havoc (J4)
- Total Chaos (Y3)
- Delirium (J2)
- a Y2 (?)
- a mini 1 (?)

Hopefully they get better names clearly someone was angry when they picked those. They used to be cat names. For like ever.
 
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While I’d generally agree with you, Cincinnati is not big, and MW is literally a mile down the road from Woodlands recent expansion. Seems fishy that Rays would open a gym after the season has started, forcing families to buy new uniforms, changing team names. Does that happen often? It seems new locations are usually announced in the spring before tryouts? Or maybe it was a panic move by MW worried that they wouldn’t survive?

For example, Dallas is huge. More than enough athletes to support multiple gyms as it currently does. Seems like a Stingrays could easily pick off enough athletes to be profitable, but why don’t they? CA’s new locations have all been in secondary markets (Omaha, Pensacola, Rochester). They could easily open in…Atlanta and be a viable competitor based on name recognition alone. I don’t know. When you have two big names competing for a finite number of athletes, it seems like no one place will be strong…

Gyms aren't randomly opening up a new location in another state. They are taking over an already existing program (or part of a program) that wants to sell, break away, etc. It's strange if there's a Woodlands and Stingrays literally 5 mins apart, but whatever those two programs used to be called (someone tried to explain all the Midwests in Ohio to me and it was just total confusion) must have already been fighting for the same kids, so this will be nothing new for them. But yeah, I'm curious how it's worth it for Stingrays and/or Woodlands to bother doing this, but it must be profitable. You don't have to have Worlds teams to make money.



Midwest had:
- Lady Carnage (S6)
- Bad Babes of Bedlam (S5)
- Masters of Mayhem (S3)
- Havoc (J4)
- Total Chaos (Y3)
- Delirium (J2)
- a Y2 (?)
- a mini 1 (?)

Hopefully they get better names clearly someone was angry when they picked those.

Lol I'm trying to decide which name I think is funniest on this list.
 
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Gyms aren't randomly opening up a new location in another state. They are taking over an already existing program (or part of a program) that wants to sell, break away, etc. It's strange if there's a Woodlands and Stingrays literally 5 mins apart, but whatever those two programs used to be called (someone tried to explain all the Midwests in Ohio to me and it was just total confusion) must have already been fighting for the same kids, so this will be nothing new for them. But yeah, I'm curious how it's worth it for Stingrays and/or Woodlands to bother doing this, but it must be profitable. You don't have to have Worlds teams to make money.





Lol I'm trying to decide which name I think is funniest on this list.

Woodlands opened a new program, in a brand new facility and pulled about half of MW paying athletes at tryouts and multiple coaches.

MW’s owners sold what was left of the gym last week and the new owner franchised and took over that facility. MW’s worlds team is free…so there is no income from that group.
 
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