All-Star Instead Of Reducing Tumbling How About Huge Tumble Bust Deductions

[King]

Let us say no one took out any of the allowed tumbling. But if you bust there are huge deductions. Let us say 5pts at worlds for every tumbling bust, 3 points for a touch down.

Feel free to throw all the skills you want, but you will move down the ranks quickly if you arent performing skills you have mastered.

This also could be applied everywhere at every level. Would not be breaking the rules cycle. And would have the same affect without pissing people off.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Yes. Tumbling bust should be equal to a stunt fall. Janky tumbling should get a huge execution score hit. Self-corrects until we can implement a better coach credentialing system.

 

[Mclovin]

Let us say no one took out any of the allowed tumbling. But if you bust there are huge deductions. Let us say 5pts at worlds for every tumbling bust, 3 points for a touch down.

Feel free to throw all the skills you want, but you will move down the ranks quickly if you arent performing skills you have mastered.

This also could be applied everywhere at every level. Would not be breaking the rules cycle. And would have the same affect without pissing people off.

I've been trying to say this forever....

 

[GreatWhite92]

I think Les mentioned this last night and all I have to say is I am pretty sure this as been mentioned about 1000 times on this board and obviously the people who are passionate about this sport are not being listened to as no one took our suggestion...

 

[King]

Yes. Tumbling bust should be equal to a stunt fall. Janky tumbling should get a huge execution score hit. Self-corrects until we can implement a better coach credentialing system.

Worth MORE than a stunt fall. Fix this faster.

 

[Philly Pherocious]

It could never be that simple, but it would be a step in the right direction.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Worth MORE than a stunt fall. Fix this faster.

Don't see me complaining..

 

[King]

It could never be that simple, but it would be a step in the right direction.

It would be that simple. If one person busted a standing full and it took you from 1st to 5th you would ONLY put the ones in you KNOW could hit.

 

[kristenthegreat]

It would be that simple. If one person busted a standing full and it took you from 1st to 5th you would ONLY put the ones in you KNOW could hit.

You must be talking about medium senior. Cause in small senior that'd take you from 1st to 10th, at the least.

 

[King]

This could have a MASSIVE change in how we approach skills. Everyone would dial back what they attempt and really work on perfecting those skills if one busted tumble means you don't win or place well.

 

[Mclovin]

kingston how is it that YOU can figure this out, but entire USASF can't??? Are you just that smart or are they just that....well I won't name call, but you get what I'm saying. lol

 

[kristenthegreat]

kingston how is it that YOU can figure this out, but entire USASF can't??? Are you just that smart or are they just that....well I won't name call, but you get what I'm saying. lol

Well, you see, there's this fancy little concept that's come up over the years called Occam's razor..

 

[Philly Pherocious]

It would be that simple. If one person busted a standing full and it took you from 1st to 5th you would ONLY put the ones in you KNOW could hit.

When performing on stage, more goes into place than just the fact that you can hit it at the gym. Many people won't think it is reasonable to go from 1st to 10th because one standing full, that lands every time at the gym, puts their hand down on a fluke.

 

[CCuRHOT]

Can we deduct for the under rotated doubles as well. Some events deduct for incomplete double downs..why not incomplete doubles fulls?

 

[King]

When performing on stage, more goes into place than just the fact that you can hit it at the gym. Many people won't think it is reasonable to go from 1st to 10th because one standing full, that lands every time at the gym, puts their hand down on a fluke.

Our kids at Rays definitely do not compete the skills they can attempt in the gym. As far as a fluke people will only put in skills they know will never fluke. Now we go into worlds excited to watch routines but ALSO not knowing who will win. It will come down to difficulty AND hitting.

There are no flukes. If you can't hit 100 out of 100 you shouldn't compete it. Thats why these rules are changing. We gotta choose one or the other.