Is Your Routine Too Long For Worlds?

Discussion in 'Allstar Cheerleading' started by King, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. King

    King Is all about that bass Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,091
    Shimmys Received:
    19,109
    Web:
    Twitter:
    fierceboard
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    King Harrison
    Georgia Tech Coach
    Not too sure if this is general knowledge or not, but it is a bit different than all the other competitions.

    At Worlds your routine is REQUIRED to be under 2:30. There is NO grace period. Per the wording if your routine is 2:30.5 you are over and get a 5 point deduction PER JUDGE. The 5 point deduction is for routines 2:30-2:35. Specifically I have Rust's routine at 2:29 (to be safe).

    Is this common knowledge? All the other competitions have 3 to 5 second grace periods and lots of them will let the time slide. Does this hurt teams coming to Worlds? Do lots of people know?

    Link to rules and page 15 for the time rule:

    http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//Worlds Documents /2011 Cheer Worlds_Registration Packet.pdf
     
  2. cheerislove8

    cheerislove8 Best Overall Female Poster On Every Thread :)

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2010
    Messages:
    7,231
    Shimmys Received:
    3,410
    I am a(n)...:
    Retired From Cheer
    To coaches, if you are not sure, @imrichhowboutu has an official BlackBerry stopwatch he can use to time your routine!
     
  3. King

    King Is all about that bass Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,091
    Shimmys Received:
    19,109
    Web:
    Twitter:
    fierceboard
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    King Harrison
    Georgia Tech Coach
    Haha, true! All kidding aside... they are REALLY cracking down on this according to the rule book.
     
  4. StarshipTrooper

    StarshipTrooper Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2010
    Messages:
    1,318
    Shimmys Received:
    3,463
    I'll be sure to pass this on at practice today. Thanks.
     
  5. Triple B

    Triple B Cheer Stalker

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    29
    Shimmys Received:
    26
    Location:
    Catonsville, MD
    I've never seen anyone give a grace period. My routines are always 2:28 just in case!
     
  6. King

    King Is all about that bass Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,091
    Shimmys Received:
    19,109
    Web:
    Twitter:
    fierceboard
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    King Harrison
    Georgia Tech Coach
    Most composer don't start deducting until 2:32 or :33

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
     
  7. King

    King Is all about that bass Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,091
    Shimmys Received:
    19,109
    Web:
    Twitter:
    fierceboard
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    King Harrison
    Georgia Tech Coach
    Comps. Dang autocorrect.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
     
  8. Triple B

    Triple B Cheer Stalker

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2011
    Messages:
    29
    Shimmys Received:
    26
    Location:
    Catonsville, MD
    That's nice of them! I'm always way too nervous to go over time!
     
  9. ShutItDown

    ShutItDown Slow your roll, Sparkle.

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2010
    Messages:
    1,076
    Shimmys Received:
    2,571
    Location:
    Boston, MA
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    is your routine too long, can you end it with a gong. can you tie it up with a v.o, tie it up with Celine Dion. should you carry it over like the limit, risk dedication UGH just leave it. is your routine. too. looooong
     
  10. Ja-Mez

    Ja-Mez I Fierce Board instead of work/study

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2009
    Messages:
    149
    Shimmys Received:
    351
    Location:
    Oklahoma City, OK
    Web:
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    I dont know about this, from what I know, the stop watches that they use only measure to the second. I realize that the penality says "0-5 seconds over" , however I think your fine if you are at 2:30:99999 seconds. As long as that stop watch doesn't say 2:31, I think you are ok. Again, I could be wrong, but at every competition competition I've ever seen judged, that's how it works. My score sheet two years ago says 2:30, and I don't have a deduction.

    Ja-Mez
     
  11. Admin

    Admin When all else fails.... I shimmy

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    971
    Shimmys Received:
    920
  12. we_stand_alone

    we_stand_alone I'm an announcer on CBS for Worlds (or should be)

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2010
    Messages:
    1,065
    Shimmys Received:
    1,373
    2:30:99999 is cutting it way to close for me, more power to you if you can do that haha.
     
  13. King

    King Is all about that bass Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,091
    Shimmys Received:
    19,109
    Web:
    Twitter:
    fierceboard
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    King Harrison
    Georgia Tech Coach
    I wouldn't risk it and wish routine time was universal at all Comps. To lose because of something silly like a routine running over sucks! Winning that way sucks too. May the best Cheer win. Not the one who read the worlds routine time rules better.

    Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk
     
  14. I think it would be they only record it to the second... I've never seen a stop watch that doesn't do fractions of a second.
    Plus you may want to account for human error and reaction time. Average reaction time is 0.25 seconds.
     
  15. King

    King Is all about that bass Staff Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,091
    Shimmys Received:
    19,109
    Web:
    Twitter:
    fierceboard
    I am a(n)...:
    Coach
    Verified Member:
    King Harrison
    Georgia Tech Coach
    Probably take the CD from you at that point.