All-Star Teams Getting Cheated

[ronnoc0522]

Do you think there are some teams that get cheated at competition? Meaning if the teams are equally good and one team hits a perfect routine and the other team that wins has some falls and touch downs on tumbling. If so what teams??

 

[ACEDAD]

Do you think there are some teams that get cheated at competition? Meaning if the teams are equally good and one team hits a perfect routine and the other team that wins has some falls and touch downs on tumbling. If so what teams??

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say yours?

 

[ronnoc0522]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say yours?

What do you mean..CEA

 

[FCACoachesMom]

There's always someone who says they were cheated if something like that happens but it's usually because they really don't know the score sheet and they just think the teams are equally good.

 

[ACEDAD]

What do you mean..CEA

I don't know. The first post just seemed like a set up for someone else to post just so you could then talk about how your team got cheated somewhere.

 

[ChelleShocked]

Well, if a team has a touchdown and fall and still wins, there must be some element in their routine that clearly set them above the other team that hit. I know you said "equally good", but they clearly would not be equal if one team won despite not hitting. In almost all cases, I have to trust the judges to know the score sheet better than I do, so although I may have perceived a routine differently, I won't question their judgement on difficulty/execution/etc. unless there was clearly a mistake.

 

[ronnoc0522]

I don't know. The first post just seemed like a set up for someone else to post just so you could then talk about how your team got cheated somewhere.

oh no not at all, i think all teams have some what gotten cheated before. I was just asking people there personal opinions on there teams getting cheated at competition.

 

[PullandPray23]

I feel like at some comps the uniform your wearing may just help a little...

 

[ronnoc0522]

Well, if a team has a touchdown and fall and still wins, there must be some element in their routine that clearly set them above the other team that hit. I know you said "equally good", but they clearly would not be equal if one team won despite not hitting. In almost all cases, I have to trust the judges to know the score sheet better than I do, so although I may have perceived a routine differently, I won't question their judgement on difficulty/execution/etc. unless there was clearly a mistake.

ya thats true!! thanks for letting me know

 

[ronnoc0522]

There's always someone who says they were cheated if something like that happens but it's usually because they really don't know the score sheet and they just think the teams are equally good.

I feel like at some comps the uniform your wearing may just help a little...

lol i agree i think it makes certain teams stand out more then others

 

[KikiD22]

Okay, I'll take the bait on this one. :) I am well aware that the judging involved in cheer make this a subjective sport, and not everyone is always going to agree with the judges. The only time that I've felt my CP's team was "cheated" was when another team team had illegal elements in their routine and were not deducted for it, resulting in a higher placement by 3 or 4 spots than they should have had. When the coaches brought it up with the judges and EP, they were told they would not discuss another team's scoring.

I have no doubt that this was an illegal element (Level 1 team, had an extended lib in the center of their pyramid. Braced on both sides, but still illegal in level 1 to be extended on 1 leg.) I even rewatched the video to make sure I hadn't seen it wrong the first time. It should have been a .50 deduction (on a 10.0 scale), but they had 0 deductions on the master scoresheet that day.

 

[PullandPray23]

lol i agree i think it makes certain teams stand out more then others

I would love Varsity to come out with a comp that all these teams get the same tshirts and shorts and make it so judges cant hear the music and then we'll see who wins...and even if the predictable and big name team still wins..Id think the scores would be closer

 

[ronnoc0522]

I would love Varsity to come out with a comp that all these teams get the same tshirts and shorts and make it so judges cant hear the music and then we'll see who wins...and even if the predictable and big name team still wins..Id think the scores would be closer

I agree, CEA and other teams like that get better scores cause there "known"

 

[imrichhowboutu]

I agree, CEA and other teams like that get better scores cause there "known"

I really think you need to watch what you are saying. This is going to open a can of worms that you don't want to deal with. And I'm sure @Ceacoach will 100% disagree with what you said.

I do not think that the uniform you wear has anything to do with placements. When you start naming specific competitions, divisions, and teams, then maybe people will listen to your argument.

 

[ronnoc0522]

I really think you need to watch what you are saying. This is going to open a can of worms that you don't want to deal with. And I'm sure @Ceacoach will 100% disagree with what you said.

I do not think that the uniform you wear has anything to do with placements. When you start naming specific competitions, divisions, and teams, then maybe people will listen to your argument.

ok well i use to cheer at CEA and i was just wondering what people thought about the scoring and if there are teams out there that have gotten cheated.