All-Star All-star Revolution Coaches On Good Morning America

[SL&AM]

I cannot control uniforms and trends from my position as a coach. I constantly speak out against the bad ones. See the new uni thread lol.

I cannot control other teams performances. I can only speak out against the gross out choreo we have been subject to the last couple years. Which i do when I can, as appropriate.

I cannot control a major corporations goals and intents. Though, I cannot say I didn't try. I worked in the belly of the beast for 6+ years... they do what they want to maintain control. Its aggravating and I call them out all the time for their messes.

Why can't multiple issues be spoken about or handled within cheer at the same time? I am a coach. I want to be taken seriously. I am a professional and want to be respected as such. Behavior like this earns limited respect and zero professionalism in sports.

I didn't say you couldn't tackle multiple issues at a time, you asked for examples of embarrassing aspects of cheerleading that are worse than the video. I gave you a list.

I certainly understand wanting to be taken seriously as a coach among the other sports in the world, in fact I admire the goal, I just don't think it's realistic or attainable. Not in the present day all-star cheerleading world.

 

[ScottyB]

Not in the present day all-star cheerleading world.

AGREED! Luckily i'm on the hs side so there is the club/school explanation that helps, but man its painful.

 

[ScottyB]

sorry i take my role as a coach seriously and want to be respected amongst other sport coaches in the world of athletics

@FamousxMindset: you got a problem with me or my intents as a coach? speak up or log off fam.

 

[Sterling von Shimmer]

What is happening

 

[quietmom]

I cannot control uniforms and trends from my position as a coach. I constantly speak out against the bad ones. See the new uni thread lol.

I cannot control other teams performances. I can only speak out against the gross out choreo we have been subject to the last couple years. Which i do when I can, as appropriate.

I cannot control a major corporations goals and intents. Though, I cannot say I didn't try. I worked in the belly of the beast for 6+ years... they do what they want to maintain control. Its aggravating and I call them out all the time for their messes.

Why can't multiple issues be spoken about or handled within cheer at the same time? I am a coach. I want to be taken seriously. I am a professional and want to be respected as such. Behavior like this earns limited respect and zero professionalism in sports.

I respect that you are passionate and want to be taken seriously. I respect that you don't like other coaches behavior during a routine. Having passion for what you love and going all in is awesome. But in your arguing, you are being kinda rude to anyone who has a different point of view to you even if they are being respectful, and it is quite off putting to be honest. It is getting in the way of the message of your very valid points. Go ahead and give me another dislike. But there are going to be people who disagree with you in life. And that is ok. You can still work with them and learn from someone even if you disagree with them. And when looking at the world around us, it is a skill that all of us adults need to have and teach to our kids. Again, just my opinion on this matter.

 

[ScottyB]

I respect that you are passionate and want to be taken seriously. I respect that you don't like other coaches behavior during a routine. Having passion for what you love and going all in is awesome. But in your arguing, you are being kinda rude to anyone who has a different point of view to you even if they are being respectful, and it is quite off putting to be honest. It is getting in the way of the message of your very valid points. Go ahead and give me another dislike. But there are going to be people who disagree with you in life. And that is ok. You can still work with them and learn from someone even if you disagree with them. And when looking at the world around us, it is a skill that all of us adults need to have and teach to our kids. Again, just my opinion on this matter.

I will always fiercely defend my role as a coach. It gets attacked constantly whether it’s about the sport itself, predators working around children, etc etc

For too long have people accepted that a cheer coach isn’t a respected coach position (mostly due to schools not paying or caring enough). I will always stand up to those that make a mockery of my work and efforts.

 

[quietmom]

I will always fiercely defend my role as a coach. It gets attacked constantly whether it’s about the sport itself, predators working around children, etc etc

For too long have people accepted that a cheer coach isn’t a respected coach position (mostly due to schools not paying or caring enough). I will always stand up to those that make a mockery of my work and efforts.

No one here is making a mockery of the sport or your efforts. Having different opinions on something is not an attack. Those coaches are likely great people who, just like you, work their tails off and are passionate. Most people on this forum have a high level of respect for cheer coaches here.

Just remember that in your passion and advocacy that you don't want to alienate people who are or could become your allies. It's all in your approach. And trust me, this is a life lesson that has taken me years to learn....and that I'm personally still working on myself.

 

[OldskoolKYcheercoach]

AGREED! Luckily i'm on the hs side so there is the club/school explanation that helps, but man its painful.

I never take for granted how lucky I am around our school and other varsity coaches to be considered “one of the guys.” Not sure how long you’ve been there, Scotty, but continue to do your job professionally, and it will happen. I had huge hurdles to overcome within the building because of the amount of drama brought on by the previous coaching staff. We use the phys. Ed. Facilities to practice and I have a marker board where I put up notes, quotes, standards, lessons for team building discussions, etc. Every coach in the building at different times has come to me and asked me about the material.

We use a grid and an acronym as a memory-aid to drill our standards of behavior. One of the assistant principals borrowed the concept, adapted the material, and created a banner for the school commons area.

Even our comp spell-out portion of our cheer section has become a common # on social media, and chant during sporting events
For as long as the average cheer coach across the board continues to act like the morons in this video, the ones who take their job seriously, and behave professionally will stand out among the real coaches we work with at the school level.

 

[OldskoolKYcheercoach]

No one here is making a mockery of the sport or your efforts. Having different opinions on something is not an attack. Those coaches are likely great people who, just like you, work their tails off and are passionate. Most people on this forum have a high level of respect for cheer coaches here.

Just remember that in your passion and advocacy that you don't want to alienate people who are or could become your allies. It's all in your approach. And trust me, this is a life lesson that has taken me years to learn....and that I'm personally still working on myself.

I agree completely with your second paragraph.

The issue I have with your first paragraph is that by behaving in the manner for which they have now gone “viral,” it no longer matters how hard they work, or how knowledgeable they are. They have become a mockery among coaches of mainstream athletics and among a large number of cheer coaches. They have completely negated all the “good” they might do, by behaving like idiots and making it to mainstream media. Of my near-1500 Facebook friends, about 100 shared that video in the matter of 24 hours. Some of them were cheer coaches, some of them were cheer parents, some of them were former cheerleaders, some of them were coaches, parents, etc from other activities, and at least one was an older lady from the church where I grew up. Precisely ZERO of them shared that video for any reason other than a good laugh, and to ask me mockingly if I would do that “just once.”

 

[ScottyB]

Well said @OldskoolKYcheercoach

Some bullies in this thread. Let’s just close it. Mods? Admins?

 

[dat.jpp]

How does having a different point of view than someone else considered "bullying"?

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

Re: Being taken "seriously among other coaches."

We live in a culture in which collegiate and pro ball coaches literally celebrate wins while having entire coolers of gatorade dumped on them.

Touchdown dances,

You name it.

Celebratory activity is the n0rm and accepted.

 

[ScottyB]

How does having a different point of view than someone else considered "bullying"?

Users that go along and dislike many of your posts over a discussion they choose to minimally participate in would be.

I’m all for disagreement and discussion. Don’t be children just marking things negatively if you don’t wanna speak up

 

[ScottyB]

Re: Being taken "seriously among other coaches."

We live in a culture in which collegiate and pro ball coaches literally celebrate wins while having entire coolers of gatorade dumped on them.

Touchdown dances,

You name it.

Celebratory activity is the n0rm and accepted.

Athletes pouring it on their coach...
Td dances by athletes, which are now banned at all levels (pros can do minimal)..

Wrong metaphor unfortunately.

 

[OldskoolKYcheercoach]

Athletes pouring it on their coach...
Td dances by athletes, which are now banned at all levels (pros can do minimal)..

Wrong metaphor unfortunately.

Agree...But for a different reason:

This would be the equivalent to Gatorade pouring in the first quarter after the first touchdown. IE: before the outcome has been determined.