All-Star Attending Clinics At Other Gyms

[quitthedrama]

Question:

I have never personally attended one of these Suzie Cheerlebrity/College Scouting/etc. clinics that are advertised everywhere.

I always assumed that even if it is technically billed as Chelsea and Carrie Cheerlebrity's clinic, that there are always trained and certified adults from the hosting gym present.

Is that usually not the case?

I attended one clinic where not a single staff member/owner from the hosting gym was there. I was there for the last 15 minutes and parents were in the middle of the floor videotaping Susie stunting. Apparently, those parents had been there the entire day and those Susies got about 80% more reps than the average athlete. I would not send my child again, and they got more reps than many other kids did. I have no idea what certifications any of the people running the clinic had - I assumed they were certified, but now I'm not so sure.

 

[Keep_Believing]

To me team practice definitely comes first, but during your free time it should be your decision.

 

[123jump4!]

Question:

I have never personally attended one of these Suzie Cheerlebrity/College Scouting/etc. clinics that are advertised everywhere.

I always assumed that even if it is technically billed as Chelsea and Carrie Cheerlebrity's clinic, that there are always trained and certified adults from the hosting gym present.

Is that usually not the case?

At the Susie Celebrity clinic we went to, there was no one from the hosting gym there. Susie's minders had the key. Susie herself showed everyone a few jumps and some basic stretches. Some of her fellow (minor) cheerlebrities were more hands on and actually helped kids with tumbling. If they're qualified coaches I don't know. Susie mostly stood around doing not much. Luckily it was only $20. I would never pay $50 or $100 for one of these events.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

^^^^Sidenote: The cost of some of those events is insane in comparison to the amount of time spent.

I saw one advertised with a particularly well-known Susie Cheerlebrity that cost approximately $200. For something like 4 hours.

I understand that Susie needs to be compensated for her travel and such, but really.

IS SUSIE GIVING OUT DOUBLE FULLS BY OSMOSIS?

 

[FaithOverFear!]

My new gym has a really bizarre policy about that. I'm not allowed to do anything tumbling, stunting, jumping, cheer related that isn't at my gym. Which is kind of a ridiculous request because of how small our gym is. It's weird. I think that you should let your athletes go to whatever clinics/privates, how much harm does it really do?

 

[dawgshow]

My new gym has a really bizarre policy about that. I'm not allowed to do anything tumbling, stunting, jumping, cheer related that isn't at my gym. Which is kind of a ridiculous request because of how small our gym is. It's weird. I think that you should let your athletes go to whatever clinics/privates, how much harm does it really do?

It could be very damaging, especially if you're allowed to work skills elsewhere that either you are ready for or they are trained to teach. Granted, that's usually not the case, but it's possible.

 

[FaithOverFear!]

It could be very damaging, especially if you're allowed to work skills elsewhere that either you are ready for or they are trained to teach. Granted, that's usually not the case, but it's possible.

I know but I meant in the sense of letting your athletes attend a clinic or private that's taught by a certified coach or something of the sort. Of course in the case of a clinic where it's taught by a random cheerleb with no certification who's known for being pretty, I understand why.

 

[njallday]

so if (God forbid) a child got hurt at any of the cheerleb-ran clinics and the owner/coaches were not present... and said child/parent decided to sue, does the event fall under the gym owner's insurance? is the clinic/instructor insured? or have they probably not even thought about those things in the off chance that something goes very wrong?

 

[Pebbles49]

so if (God forbid) a child got hurt at any of the cheerleb-ran clinics and the owner/coaches were not present... and said child/parent decided to sue, does the event fall under the gym owner's insurance? is the clinic/instructor insured? or have they probably not even thought about those things in the off chance that something goes very wrong?

Most of these clinics have you sign upfront a waiver, relieving them of any fault, blame or litigation and you participate at your own peril.

 

[dawgshow]

I know but I meant in the sense of letting your athletes attend a clinic or private that's taught by a certified coach or something of the sort. Of course in the case of a clinic where it's taught by a random cheerleb with no certification who's known for being pretty, I understand why.

Certified doesn't always mean competent, though.

 

[Keep_Believing]

I know cheerleaders who also do competitive ice skating, diving, high school cheer, gymnastics, bmx bike riding, etc. Risk will be taken outside of cheer gyms.

 

[SL&AM]

If it's a true safety concern, I can definitely understand a coach/owner pipping up. At the gym we're currently at, I know if I were to take CP to like an open gym or clinic at a gym in our area I'd likely hear something. The gym in question has a very sketchy safety record and a family member of mine actually suffered a broken arm as a result of attending; in that case though, I wouldn't see it as being a Pissy Pants but a true concern for their athletes who they want healthy for competitions.

I also think practice comes first; CP wanted to do a cheer clinic at a local-ish college for fun, it's more summer camp than recruiting (please don't think I'm one of those moms) but after she joined her current program found that she'd need to miss an entire week of practice to attend...she ended up passing on the clinic for that reason.

 

[WinstonsGirl]

My new gym has a really bizarre policy about that. I'm not allowed to do anything tumbling, stunting, jumping, cheer related that isn't at my gym. Which is kind of a ridiculous request because of how small our gym is. It's weird. I think that you should let your athletes go to whatever clinics/privates, how much harm does it really do?

I would hate this policy. I do 99% of my tumbling training outside of my gym. I use the local gymnastic gyms and coaches for classes and privates, usually cos the class is smaller, there's more floor space and they have equipment my gym doesn't, such as rod floors and a pit. I won't throw a brand new skill unless I can throw it into a foam pit. Once I figure out why I'm doing, I work it up to the floor. Much safer for me.

Gyms in my area often do clinics for their athletes only, mainly so their athletes are the ones who benefit. If there happens to be space left, then that will be open to other athletes to make up for cost

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

I know cheerleaders who also do competitive ice skating, diving, high school cheer, gymnastics, bmx bike riding, etc. Risk will be taken outside of cheer gyms.

Oh yes! There is always risk somewhere.

Trust me, if I could have a "no horsing around in the driveway with your wrestler boyfriend when it's icy out" policy, I would!

(Yes, someone broke a wrist doing that. Silly!)

 

[littlestALLSTAR]

Well , I hope our gym is ok with it, cause we just landed in Dallas to see how Y'all do all-star in the south.