All-Star Copyrights?

[icecheer1395]

I might be a loner in doing this, but sometimes I search for pictures of my own gym on instagram. I stumbled upon a picture that looked like they smashed ICE before IL merged and after they merged together to create a new gym in Iowa? (might be wrong on location?).(I know they didn't since I go to Ice.) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they used ICC's previous logo (ICE) for their logo and then used the current unis for theirs with ICC's colors. I know that the uniforms aren't copyrighted because gk owns the design, but can they use the name ICE or ICC's logo when it was ICE?

I'm not trying to disrespect the gym, the name, the coincidences, etc. just wondering if they can legally do this &thoughts, opinions, etc. (nor am I trying to get them into legal issues, again just wondering)

 

[Callmeboots]

Unless the logo is actually copyrighted, they can use the logo, no matter how unethical. However, if it is, then I don't think it's legal to use their logo.

 

[icecheer1395]

Unless the logo is actually copyrighted, they can use the logo, no matter how unethical. However, if it is, then I don't think it's legal to use their logo.

Oh I see, I forgot to mention this but I'm pretty sure ICE went to ICC because of copyrights. But I also know that there's like 50000 types of rebels Allstars.

 

[SharkDad]

Normally if you don't want to get someone in legal trouble when you suspect something wrong, you don't use the actual names and details. Just an observation.

That being said I agree Callmeboots although I'm not a legal expert. Even if it were someone would have to take them to court for it to matter.

 

[Kel Kell]

Logos are not copyrighted, but trademarked. This is done so it's easier to use them within fair use, you can make a poster with the NCA, UCA, Cheersport, and whatever cheer logo you would like and it would be totally legal (as long as you don't say they sponsor your event) as long as you have the proper attribution.

As soon as you change some of the colors/proportions it is now a different logo (this is how people make knockoff coach bags and not go to jail), so legally speaking they should be good. Ethical... maybe not... legal... yes. I also don't know if someone that was with the one team is now on the other so there could be some cross pollination of ideas there.

 

[BlueCat]

Unless the logo is actually copyrighted, they can use the logo, no matter how unethical. However, if it is, then I don't think it's legal to use their logo.

You have certain legal rights even if the logo/name is not a registered trademark. However, your protection gets much stronger and easier to defend in court if you do have the ®.

 

[BlueCat]

Logos are not copyrighted, but trademarked. This is done so it's easier to use them within fair use, you can make a poster with the NCA, UCA, Cheersport, and whatever cheer logo you would like and it would be totally legal (as long as you don't say they sponsor your event) as long as you have the proper attribution.

As soon as you change some of the colors/proportions it is now a different logo (this is how people make knockoff coach bags and not go to jail), so legally speaking they should be good. Ethical... maybe not... legal... yes. I also don't know if someone that was with the one team is now on the other so there could be some cross pollination of ideas there.

Garment and accessory designs are nearly impossible to protect the rights to. Logos, however, are much easier to protect. That is why many brands have their logos all over the product itself. (Think Louis Vuitton). They can defend their right to that logo much more easily than the actual purse/luggage design.

The typical reason that "knockoff" bag sellers (the ones that even have the same logo) don't go to jail is that they don't get caught/prosecuted - not necessarily because what they are doing is legal. (Think pirated music) It costs the company too much time/energy/money to go after every single one.

 

[MyDaughterCheers]

Garment and accessory designs are nearly impossible to protect the rights to. Logos, however, are much easier to protect. That is why many brands have their logos all over the product itself. (Think Louis Vuitton). They can defend their right to that logo much more easily than the actual purse/luggage design.

The typical reason that "knockoff" bag sellers (the ones that even have the same logo) don't go to jail is that they don't get caught/prosecuted - not necessarily because what they are doing is legal. (Think pirated music) It costs the company too much time/energy/money to go after every single one.

And because people persist in buying the fake knock offs. :(

 

[King]

It is actually very expensive to sue someone, money and time wise. It doesn't mean someone cannot sue you, it just means you really have to have a good reason and pissed someone off enough for them to go through and do it. It is not as simple as filing a case and that person just suddenly owes you money.

 

[canz]

Normally if you don't want to get someone in legal trouble when you suspect something wrong, you don't use the actual names and details. Just an observation.

That being said I agree Callmeboots although I'm not a legal expert. Even if it were someone would have to take them to court for it to matter.

What about passing off? Passing off is a form of copyright infringement (name is fairly self-explanatory).

 

[Rudags]

I know Several Gyms named "ICE" all over the US.