All-Star Team Placements

[Jenniturtle]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, I am new. This is my CP first full year on Allstar. She is 13 and was on a level one prep team last year, never cheered a day before last September. She went through tryouts and was placed on a level 2 team. My CP was thrilled and the team seems like it will be really good. I know that these first few weeks and months people will be pulled from other teams to see who is a good fit where. My problem is that I am seeing people who have complained because their CP was placed on a level 1 team. now suddenly because they threatened to quit they have been moved to our team, not having any level 2 skills. Another girl who was on level 4.2 last year was placed on our junior level 2 team complained after the FIRST practice that it was not challenging enough for her. now she is practicing with a level 4 team. WTH?? My daughter worked hard to get her level 2 skills and feels like she earned her spot on her team. She wanted to make the 4.2 team but did not utter a peep when she didn't. Now she is seeing other girls complain about the team they made and they get switched. What is this teaching our children??

 

[SarahS]

Well... It would teach me that this is not the gym for me.

 

[Jenniturtle]

Well... It would teach me that this is not the gym for me.

We only have one gym in town, sadly all others are 1 1/2 hours away. She love cheer but i am not driving that far several times a week

 

[tumbleyoda]

Sadly it teaches that if you whine, fuss, threaten to leave and make enough noise, you may just get what you want, regardless to if you have earned it or not. It is an entitlement mentality.

 

[Haileycheer]

I see it all the time in allstar cheer. If the kids are not satisfied, they are spoiled, and parents call and threaten the gym that they will leave and go to a competitors gym. Its nothing new, and sadly happens every year.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

Go elsewhere.

The gym is not Burger King and you do not "Have it your way."

These are the same kids whose moms roll up to my office at school demanding that I ask a teacher to "bump them up from a B to an A."

 

[Bling it On]

This goes on all the time. No gym I know even cares about the message this sends.


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[Pebbles49]

Sorry if this has been discussed before, I am new. This is my CP first full year on Allstar. She is 13 and was on a level one prep team last year, never cheered a day before last September. She went through tryouts and was placed on a level 2 team. My CP was thrilled and the team seems like it will be really good. I know that these first few weeks and months people will be pulled from other teams to see who is a good fit where. My problem is that I am seeing people who have complained because their CP was placed on a level 1 team. now suddenly because they threatened to quit they have been moved to our team, not having any level 2 skills. Another girl who was on level 4.2 last year was placed on our junior level 2 team complained after the FIRST practice that it was not challenging enough for her. now she is practicing with a level 4 team. WTH?? My daughter worked hard to get her level 2 skills and feels like she earned her spot on her team. She wanted to make the 4.2 team but did not utter a peep when she didn't. Now she is seeing other girls complain about the team they made and they get switched. What is this teaching our children??

Sounds to me, the 'Power that Be' at this gym has the mentality that "A Close Mouth, Does not get fed":confused:... So your tactic of suffering quietly is not working, so you must change immediately, get in there and scream and cry your head off and immediately step and claw your way over and above all of the other cheerleaders to get your daughter on the team she wants (Level 4.2)...But to be honest, If it was me, I will not stop at level 4.2, why not go for Level 5 - a World Team and don't settle for anything less than all these positions in the routine - Center Flyer, feature Tumbler with last pass, Point Dancer and Jumper, OKAY! Your little Susie really deserve it...:D Just only saying!!!
(only kidding!!!):p

 

[Cheermom1969]

I don't understand why gyms give in to the whining parents and their offspring. We all got an email last night from Tannaz that very nicely stated - and I'm putting my own spin on it here - don't complain to us that your little darling isn't flying or she's not on the team she wanted! She reminded parents to trust the coaches, they want what's best for every team. And I totally support her! Even if my cp had stayed on the level she was at, yeah, I wouldn't be happy, but I wouldn't say anything. Because I do trust the coaches and know my kid isn't the center of the gym's universe.

I think it's very short-sighted of the gym to give in because what you're going to do is drive the good families away. :rolleyes:

 

[cheermommaRN]

Considering they are the only gym in the area they technically have the upper hand over these parents. It would be smarter for them to ignore them and keep the kids on their original teams because what are they going to do? Drive 1.5 hours? If they didn't make level 4 at your smaller gym they sure as heck are not going to make one at Big Gym down the highway.
I've seen this mostly at small gyms where the owners are afraid of losing numbers or having one kid take half the team with them. The good thing is that your cp is showing the coaches that she can be depended upon to go all in no matter what her placement is.

 

[dance2874]

I think it's very short-sighted of the gym to give in because what you're going to do is drive the good families away. :rolleyes:

That exact thing happened at the gym we just left....lots of the "good families" went for greener pastures this season. We got tired of seeing the ones who barked the loudest rewarded for it over and over again, even when their kids didn't have the skills for the position they were asking for. In fact several spots on teams were promised to certain people BEFORE tryouts even happened for this coming season or the families threatened to leave. Their kids didn't have the skills for the team and were placed there. After tryouts, more complaining and moving of kids. I was SO glad we had already moved on so I didn't have to watch it, just hear about it from friends, lol!

 

[TraumaRNcheermom]

unfortunately have seen this myself, several ppl recently whined and threatened to quit the gym if this "golden child" with minimal skills wasn't placed on the team she wanted and they had already left the gym once before. So surprise surprise, girls with more loyalty and more talent were displaced, which is a crock. Sometimes it's a choice you must make, to stick it out or leave, but I here this happening everywhere. I tell my kids, they will be better of in the future that the children who behave like this and get what they want, because one day "Mommy" wont be able to control what they brats want and they will suffer for it then. And Cheer mom 1969, I have seen it drive families away as well, the irony is the families leaving take sibling sets. I'd say Good riddince and let the whiny brats gym hop because of their lack of talent:p

 

[TraumaRNcheermom]

This goes on all the time. No gym I know even cares about the message this sends.


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Sad but true. I would run the business different. I would send the brats packing and end up with 10x the talent in my gym just because I sent that message... Parents and threats shouldn't dictate how a team is placed, however Talent & LOYALTY should determine how teams are made.

 

[catlady]

@Jenniturtle My daughter is currently on a 4.2 and her coach is also the level 4 coach. Recently he has asked my daughter and another girl to practice with the level 4 whenever they can. My assumption being only there are quite a few vacations right now and it will help him out so kids won't miss out on stunting. I always caution parents to assume anything, we have had coaches allow a kid to practice with the next level up if they need someone to help out or just to prove to a child/parents that being on the next level can be stressful if they can't keep up. If you know for a fact the gym is moving kids around just because they are complaining, then I would definitely look for another gym, that's not safe. If Suzi is telling everyone, "if you complain, they move you" and points out a few kids that are practicing on different teams, then I'd say, assume nothing except for the possibility you just found "Suzi's mom". I have already braced myself for "Suzi's mom" seeing my daughter with the level 4's.