All-Star The Dreaded Step

[LeahofthePack]

When I was on a level 3 team our choreographer actually choreographed two steps into our squad standing three back handsprings at the beginning of the routine. I literally could not do it. I didn't understand how you sat and jumped when your legs were separated and walking backwards. I would kind of pass off a little scoot and then bring my legs back together while everyone was on their second step before starting my first handspring.

We kept it in for about two weeks before our coach took it out. It looked awkward and screwed up everyone's timing. I never threw any kind of standing to fulls so I could see how the power would help there, but it was so unnecessary (and downright hard to add in if you didn't learn it that way) for a standing series

The only time I have chosen to take a step was trying standing fulls on a trampoline and I only did it because I saw 95% of the standing full population doing it so I thought you had to do it lol

I agree though, I think it's kind of unnecessary

 

[Michael White]

The only time I have chosen to take a step was trying standing fulls on a trampoline and I only did it because I saw 95% of the standing full population doing it so I thought you had to do it lol

I agree though, I think it's kind of unnecessary

Steps into my standing full just screw it up. I start completely from a stand, but steps do add power if you do them right. When I first learned my two to full I stepped to get a little more power, but it just led to a more wild first handspring. It was so fast and powerful that I couldn't even execute the second handspring.

 

[TealArmySparkle]

To be honest steps just look messy. I prefer how tumbling (especially standing fulls) look without a step. I'm sure there is a high profile world's team that don't step in standing fulls but I can't remember who it was. Thought it was maybe TGLC or GT Blink but don't quote me on it.

*looked through a few videos and there was a UK team called Unity Black that standing full from stationary. GT and TG were toe fulls.

 

[FierceIsTheName]

Lol I have this problem for "running tumbling" I can't do any level 3 tumbling from a power hurdle, I have to run. It's a mental thing, the number of steps I take shouldn't affect my tuck but it does..... Does anyone else have this problem??
For standing tumbling I think the step helps IF its done right. My routine had two steps to a triple handspring choreographed into our routine and I think it's cleaner than just swinging into it.
When we were aiming to be level 4 our coach refused to let us do steps into a standing tuck, to avoid us getting attached to the step.



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[Alexx]

Lol I have this problem for "running tumbling" I can't do any level 3 tumbling from a power hurdle, I have to run. It's a mental thing, the number of steps I take shouldn't affect my tuck but it does..... Does anyone else have this problem??
For standing tumbling I think the step helps IF its done right. My routine had two steps to a triple handspring choreographed into our routine and I think it's cleaner than just swinging into it.
When we were aiming to be level 4 our coach refused to let us do steps into a standing tuck, to avoid us getting attached to the step.



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I could never do a power hurdle. Ever. The concept of jumping from two feet and going right into a round off freaked me out.

 

[cupieqt]

This is a hot topic with coaches. Most generally agree that the step before back handsprings is not needed. Some like the steps for choreography purposes before longer standing tumbling passes that end with flipping skills. Others say NO step unless you're doing a standing full, no exceptions.

It's all about preference with step or no step. But almost everyone worth their salt in tumbling agrees that you should be able to do the skills without a step no matter what (gymnasts do them on beams with no step so...). You can use it for choreography but IMHO you should teach and drill them with no steps.

ETA: *for the record we do use the step in choreography for longer standing passes but there's no crazy arm movements with all the push, swipe, swing, pull business. This year we adopted a clean and step for the teams that step.


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[DaniV]

Lol I have this problem for "running tumbling" I can't do any level 3 tumbling from a power hurdle, I have to run. It's a mental thing, the number of steps I take shouldn't affect my tuck but it does..... Does anyone else have this problem??
For standing tumbling I think the step helps IF its done right. My routine had two steps to a triple handspring choreographed into our routine and I think it's cleaner than just swinging into it.
When we were aiming to be level 4 our coach refused to let us do steps into a standing tuck, to avoid us getting attached to the step.



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I'm the exact opposite, I have to power hurdle or 1-step hurdle because a run gives me too much power and I freak out. It's a fairly common thing though. You mentally are attached to the extra power that the run gives you. It might because it actually does give you more power if you have weak technique on the power hurdle or the round-off bhs. I would just keep working power hurdle RO BHS until you have excellent technique with a strong set and then have someone stand there while you add the tuck.

 

[King]

A step isn't too bad. It is good for timing and generating a little power into a handspring and makes it a good deal easier. Multiple steps can get ridiculous and then no one is on count. Honestly a step look more natural like an on toes prep before a stunt (but not a hop!). The rhythm looks so much cleaner.

 

[Official OWECheer]

Round off without a power hurdle (skip to 1:30):



I used to always have to power hurdle into a round-off because my coaches never taught us what the correct for was for a RO. The first tumbling skill everyone worked on at our weekly tumbling class was a back handspring. They never taught us the importance of having good form.

 

[omgitssydthekid]

Round off without a power hurdle (skip to 1:30):



I used to always have to power hurdle into a round-off because my coaches never taught us what the correct for was for a RO. The first tumbling skill everyone worked on at our weekly tumbling class was a back handspring. They never taught us the importance of having good form.

I feel like all we do is work on round offs in our novice classes haha. Kids learn some crazy habits in their backyards before they start real tumbling classess


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[Michael White]

I feel like all we do is work on round offs in our novice classes haha. Kids learn some crazy habits in their backyards before they start real tumbling classess


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I sometimes joke that our level 1+2 tumbling classes should be handstands, cartwheels, and round offs the whole time. :D

 

[WinstonsGirl]

Lol I have this problem for "running tumbling" I can't do any level 3 tumbling from a power hurdle, I have to run. It's a mental thing, the number of steps I take shouldn't affect my tuck but it does..... Does anyone else have this problem??
For standing tumbling I think the step helps IF its done right. My routine had two steps to a triple handspring choreographed into our routine and I think it's cleaner than just swinging into it.
When we were aiming to be level 4 our coach refused to let us do steps into a standing tuck, to avoid us getting attached to the step.



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Yup. I used to be able to power hurdle RO tuck but I toasted my hip on one run from trying to get more power. I 2 step in now, since I get more power and it matching the timing of a hurdle. I prefer 3 steps to lay, or sometimes if it's the end of the routine and I'm feeling more tired than usual. I can throw a tuck from 3 steps with no thought or effort. But usually once I've choreographed a tumbling line (in my head), I stick with the footwork for that line, even if I'm tumbling alone.

I'm not comfortable enough yet with my lay to go down to 2 steps.

 

[omgitssydthekid]

I sometimes joke that our level 1+2 tumbling classes should be handstands, cartwheels, and round offs the whole time. :D

That's basically to gist of our class with a bwo/bhs station [emoji23] lots of drilling the basics.


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[Official OWECheer]

I feel like all we do is work on round offs in our novice classes haha. Kids learn some crazy habits in their backyards before they start real tumbling classess


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UGH YES. What's worse are the parents who think that their kid is an advanced tumbler just because they can throw (janky) things on the trampoline at home.

 

[GForce]

I'm uncomfortable doing the step. It just throws me off like having to add these little steps before skills.