All-Star The Majors By Jamfest Events

[Mclovin]

I have to disagree with Medium Coed/Large Limited. If given the opportunity, I believe that the majority of the population would choose watching Top Gun, CA Bullets, CA Cheetahs, ACE, and CEA Coed Elite over ANY of the current teams in large limited. It is a whole different feel and a more entertaining routine for the most part. When Top Gun or Cali are competing, the arena is packed no matter where they are. I don't think the same applies to Medium Coed. Plus, what 5 teams would you select from medium coed? Spirit of Texas and Twist & Shout, but then who else. The top 5 teams seem to always change. Stingrays Smoke, Charlotte Teal, NJSE, WCO, Texas Lonestar, ECE, Rockstar.

And the same goes for Small senior. Yes everyone was obsessed with Panthers and Cali this past year, and Orange before that. But other than Orange and Cali (because those are the 2 major players this year as of yet), you can't tell me anyone would turn down watching Top Gun, CAx2, CEA, and ACE for small senior.

I am from T&S and I agree with this. While I personally could watch our team all day long, entertainment wise a team with 6 boys doesn't even compare to a team with 18 boys. The entertainment factor alone makes large coed a division you DON'T want to miss. You never see the milkhouse or arena at NCA packed out just to watch large limited/medium coed. But if you want a seat to see large coed, you'd better get there early. It just is what it is. :)

 

[timmis]

All of this makes me wish competition season would just start already.

 

[DJ]

Umm no Shooting Stars?...bye.

I think this could have to do with the rumors I was hearing of a World Cup skip of JamFest Indy this year. (perhaps still unhappy with the outcome last year i.e. Odyssey)

 

[DJ]

So I think Jamfest chickened out after they posted it. Personal I dont like it. There are all ready a ton of rumors about Jams breaking off and creating a new usasf and now they add this. It all seems pretty shady to me and not what this indrusty needs by any means

Interestingly, I find the Varsity / USASF relationship and controlling interest quite "shady" as you put it but I'd prefer to use the word monopolizing. Any way you argue it, there is a clear and definite relation and steering of the USASF with Varsity Brands interest. (I just wish they would own it, and not purport it to be something that it is not. i.e. run by bunch of competition companies). This used to work when the competition companies thought as individuals and not as part of a "Brand".

 

[Cheerfan1234]

I'm not questioning why they chose those two divisions..It's like going back to basics as we used to know them.....18 boys are much more exciting than 6 and I agree that a division of multiple Large Coed teams would trump a division of multiple Medium Coed teams anyday...What I was trying to say was that over the past few years, most people only really thought of TG and CA when you thought of Large Coed..With medium (or old Large ltd.) you had/have T&S, SOT, GT, Smoke, ECE, Ody, and lately ACE, TG, GA, and I guess even NJSE to name a few..I was thinking more in terms of number of fan favorites from top notch programs versus number of people who crowd an arena to watch one team.

The Majors doesn't affect me at all, but I don't see how this idea is "genius" when on the surface it just sounds like a dueling Worlds with a different name and a trip to Europe. I'm not against it, I just don't get it yet. I guess we'll just have to see...definitely seems like a fun experience team for the teams that were included.

 

[DJ]

That is interesting. CEA got paid bids for both SE and CE at JamFest this past year. I know Top Gun usually attends but has their bid before they go, but hasn't F5 gotten their bid there in the past also?

If I remember correctly, F5 consistently is proud to represent NCA - they advertise is like every year.

 

[rfw1955]

In 2009, F5 and Reign got their paid bids at JamFest Indy. That was the only non NCA bid for F5.

 

[DJ]

In 2009, F5 and Reign got their paid bids at JamFest Indy. That was the only non NCA bid for F5.

Thank-you for the clarification.

 

[yojaehs]

I don't think any of these teams will have to worry about bids anyway, not saying that anyone would turn away a full paid bid, but then again who's gonna turn away a free trip to Europe?

 

[Just-a-Mom]

why are medium teams competing in large senior? i am so confused :confused:

Does anyone know this? It says Large All-Girl, but they have Fame up there. Last I checked Fame was Medium this year, and I thought Panthers were too. Certainly not large. So is it actually just an All Girl and a Coed division? If so, they should call it that. I'm sooooo confused......:confused:

 

[NoOneSpecial]

I think this could have to do with the rumors I was hearing of a World Cup skip of JamFest Indy this year. (perhaps still unhappy with the outcome last year i.e. Odyssey)

RUMORS - gotta love them.

TIMING is everything.

 

[imrichhowboutu]

Does anyone know this? It says Large All-Girl, but they have Fame up there. Last I checked Fame was Medium this year, and I thought Panthers were too. Certainly not large. So is it actually just an All Girl and a Coed division? If so, they should call it that. I'm sooooo confused......:confused:

Yes. This is a All Girl division with teams ranging from 30-36. I don't think it will make that much of an impact.

Panthers, Marlins, Fame - Medium
F5, CEA - Large

 

[Just-a-Mom]

Does anyone know this? It says Large All-Girl, but they have Fame up there. Last I checked Fame was Medium this year, and I thought Panthers were too. Certainly not large. So is it actually just an All Girl and a Coed division? If so, they should call it that. I'm sooooo confused......:confused:

OK. I've sort of answered my own question. I guess if this isn't a Worlds bid event, and if it's Jam trying to make their own Worlds-like event, then I suppose USASF divisions wouldn't really matter? So maybe Jam has decided that they're only going to have 2 divisions in AG - large and small? I. am. so. confused. But I would assume if you're trying to branch out and compete against USASF and not giving bids you can divide teams up however you gosh darned well please.

ETA: Rich I just saw your answer after I posted. But those teams don't have 30 members. So how is it 30-36 members?

 

[DJ]

RUMORS - gotta love them.

TIMING is everything.

Lol, I was careful to denote it was a rumor. (I remember Level 5 Awards, and the outcry and disappointment over Odyssey's bid situation, I think it was Matrix that got the bid over them.)

 

[imrichhowboutu]

Lol, I was careful to denote it was a rumor. (I remember Level 5 Awards, and the outcry and disappointment over Odyssey's bid situation, I think it was Matrix that got the bid over them.)

Yea. Matrix beat them by 0.004