All-Star Alcohol/drugs At Worlds

[KPep]

The flip side also was apparent, there were definitely multiple Twitter posts of athletes in compromising pictures spread about. One of which was discredited, another of which was stated to have been from way earlier in the season,( the gym actually posted that they had previously addressed their athletes earlier in the season) and others of which were questionable to say the least. It definitely showed that enforcement would be a nightmare.

Funny enough someone actually tagged USASF in a post asking who to talk to about drunk athletes and was told to contact their regional rep. On a busy cheer weekend, lol, where it is very likely no one would actually answer... and do athletes and/or parents even have access to a regional rep?

But as I mentioned in another post, given that a heavily sanctioned program/director coach was all over social media talking about continued coaching/directing, I think we already knew there wasn’t a lot of gusto behind these policies. If they were applied, I’d have little doubt they wouldn’t be enforced.

The person was me. It was incredibly hard to actually talk to someone who was aware of this year's rules on alcohol!!!! I ended up talking to someone at the varsity office who said she would talk to someone at usasf... She did not know about the rule.

I am pretty sure nothing has been done. I knew what gym and what team they were a part of and told the lady. They had everything needed to take action.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

My personal thing as far as parents go:

Drink. Don't drink. Do whatever.

But make sure your kids are taken care of and not running wild in the hotel/pool/parks unsupervised.

I traveled quite a bit with my niece for pageants and there were always moms/dads at the bar while their children:

*were in the pool unsupervised.
*were being insanely loud at 11:30p in the hallways with no adult.
*were running around the resort areas/hotel restaurant areas like wild animals with hotel staff having to tell them to stop.

Young kids too. Not teens in groups. Like 7-9 year olds.

Oh, and little kids plus one tween or teen is not supervision. A teen or tween is often not going to know what to do in a real emergency. Ex: Something goes wrong in the pool.

 

[Mndl]

Obviously you are not and have never been the parent of a LAG cheerleader.

I was so stressed that I could barely watch the routine on my ipad, I'm not a big drinker but I think alcohol would be required if I was there in person!

 

[OldskoolKYcheercoach]

Biergarten, aka Beer Garden, is a restaurant at Epcot. When the cheer competition is at Disney, it's not their fault that Disney has already provided them with the Garden of Beer.

I'm not commenting on the rest.

Three years ago, they had a beer garden at high school nationals. Parents at a high school athletic event wandering through a tent and coming out the other side half-lit.

 

[OldskoolKYcheercoach]

Obviously you are not and have never been the parent of a LAG cheerleader.

No, I’m not. However, I officiated youth baseball in travel tournaments for years. Alcohol and youth sports don’t mix. Every problem we ever had on the field or off with a coach or parent, you could smell the stale booze on their breath from 10 feet away.

I finally took control of the situation myself and if I smelled alcohol in a Coach, I would eject him at the pre-game meeting at home plate.

 

[WinstonsGirl]

The person was me. It was incredibly hard to actually talk to someone who was aware of this year's rules on alcohol!!!! I ended up talking to someone at the varsity office who said she would talk to someone at usasf... She did not know about the rule.

I am pretty sure nothing has been done. I knew what gym and what team they were a part of and told the lady. They had everything needed to take action.

I witnessed numerous athletes drinking/drunk this past weekend at all-star, and saw lots of social media too, though not usually identifiable people. It was just more hidden in hotel rooms this year. I will admit that the staff/security presence was there and all-star was quiet/shut down after midnight, but I'm not surprised that there was still drinking and nothing will be done about it. While this year was very tame compared to previous years, no follow through from USASF means that eventually/soon, people will start to push the boundaries again and we'll be back to the pool/parking lot parties if nothing is done

 

[wondervvivi]

I saw posts on social media where athletes "drunk water" and used the hashtag #watergoals but it was obiviously another beverage put in water bottles..

 

[quitthedrama]

I witnessed numerous athletes drinking/drunk this past weekend at all-star, and saw lots of social media too, though not usually identifiable people. It was just more hidden in hotel rooms this year. I will admit that the staff/security presence was there and all-star was quiet/shut down after midnight, but I'm not surprised that there was still drinking and nothing will be done about it. While this year was very tame compared to previous years, no follow through from USASF means that eventually/soon, people will start to push the boundaries again and we'll be back to the pool/parking lot parties if nothing is done

My daughter went to the USASF orientation. The person running it said that they needed to crack down on athlete drinking/smoking and to not do it, security would be increased significantly and any athlete involved with security would be reported to Varsity (yes, I asked CP to repeat that and she confirmed that is what was said but that's an issue for another day). My CP normally goes to the all star Monday night and we book a room there just for that night so my husband and I can supervise and make sure she is towing the line and is safe but can see her friends. This year she went to the block party. It was the most fun at Worlds she has ever had in 6 years of competing there and based on all of the snapchats I saw it looked like everyone was behaving and had a great time. The block party lasts until 2am. It gives the athletes a safe and entertaining place to go. USASF can easily solve 90% of issues by including the block party in the hopper registration rather than charging extra for it. The kids hardly ever use all of the days on the hopper pass anyway, and it eliminates the cost and headaches of the additional security needed at the all star, and the kids can enjoy themselves without resorting to hanging out at the pools doing things they shouldn't be.

 

[KPep]

My daughter went to the USASF orientation. The person running it said that they needed to crack down on athlete drinking/smoking and to not do it, security would be increased significantly and any athlete involved with security would be reported to Varsity (yes, I asked CP to repeat that and she confirmed that is what was said but that's an issue for another day). My CP normally goes to the all star Monday night and we book a room there just for that night so my husband and I can supervise and make sure she is towing the line and is safe but can see her friends. This year she went to the block party. It was the most fun at Worlds she has ever had in 6 years of competing there and based on all of the snapchats I saw it looked like everyone was behaving and had a great time. The block party lasts until 2am. It gives the athletes a safe and entertaining place to go. USASF can easily solve 90% of issues by including the block party in the hopper registration rather than charging extra for it. The kids hardly ever use all of the days on the hopper pass anyway, and it eliminates the cost and headaches of the additional security needed at the all star, and the kids can enjoy themselves without resorting to hanging out at the pools doing things they shouldn't be.

I have to agree that the party was the best I have been to. Hollywood Studios was too small for all the people going and the waiting time for rides was insane. Magic Kingdom was a far better choice with some food stands open/starbucks and all of the rides open. The atmosphere was fun.

 

[WinstonsGirl]

My daughter went to the USASF orientation. The person running it said that they needed to crack down on athlete drinking/smoking and to not do it, security would be increased significantly and any athlete involved with security would be reported to Varsity (yes, I asked CP to repeat that and she confirmed that is what was said but that's an issue for another day). My CP normally goes to the all star Monday night and we book a room there just for that night so my husband and I can supervise and make sure she is towing the line and is safe but can see her friends. This year she went to the block party. It was the most fun at Worlds she has ever had in 6 years of competing there and based on all of the snapchats I saw it looked like everyone was behaving and had a great time. The block party lasts until 2am. It gives the athletes a safe and entertaining place to go. USASF can easily solve 90% of issues by including the block party in the hopper registration rather than charging extra for it. The kids hardly ever use all of the days on the hopper pass anyway, and it eliminates the cost and headaches of the additional security needed at the all star, and the kids can enjoy themselves without resorting to hanging out at the pools doing things they shouldn't be.

I was under the impression the Block Party was included with the Park Hopper. You need special wristbands to get in, and I don't ever remember pulling out my park pass to attend. And yes, Magic Kingdom is a much better choice. I think it was time for a change anyway, but it would be nice if the buses just dropped you off at the park and there was no ferry ride involved. Took way too long to get there

 

[DonnaM]

For UCA, it was not included if you did a commuter pass, nor was there any transportation provided because the park buses stopped running to Magic Kingdom. It would be nice to have it bundled in with the commuter pass. Really, I wish that the party was bundled and Disney hopper days were an add-on. Worlds and Summit are badly timed for high school and college students to be able to take advantage of their Disney days. For local colleges, finals were the week after Worlds this year, and Summit hits in the middle of AP exams. D2 Summit overlaps finals for underclassmen and graduation at some schools for seniors in my area.

 

[quitthedrama]

I was under the impression the Block Party was included with the Park Hopper. You need special wristbands to get in, and I don't ever remember pulling out my park pass to attend. And yes, Magic Kingdom is a much better choice. I think it was time for a change anyway, but it would be nice if the buses just dropped you off at the park and there was no ferry ride involved. Took way too long to get there

It is not for commuter passes at least. I've never registered any other way, so it has always been an additional cost.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

For UCA, it was not included if you did a commuter pass, nor was there any transportation provided because the park buses stopped running to Magic Kingdom. It would be nice to have it bundled in with the commuter pass. Really, I wish that the party was bundled and Disney hopper days were an add-on. Worlds and Summit are badly timed for high school and college students to be able to take advantage of their Disney days. For local colleges, finals were the week after Worlds this year, and Summit hits in the middle of AP exams. D2 Summit overlaps finals for underclassmen and graduation at some schools for seniors in my area.

It has always been weird to me that the biggest all star comps of the year are also same weekends as TRYOUTS/CLINICS at some colleges (depending on the school.) I think most of the major programs that pull from the all star community have adapted and changed tryout dates accordingly. (Ex: UL obviously has to avoid these weekends or no one is going to be able to try out.)

Also the idea of coming straight out of Worlds/Summit into a college tryout within a week makes me want to stress cry. I don't know how kids do it.

 

[quitthedrama]

It has always been weird to me that the biggest all star comps of the year are also same weekends as TRYOUTS/CLINICS at some colleges (depending on the school.) I think most of the major programs that pull from the all star community have adapted and changed tryout dates accordingly. (Ex: UL obviously has to avoid these weekends or no one is going to be able to try out.)

Also the idea of coming straight out of Worlds/Summit into a college tryout within a week makes me want to stress cry. I don't know how kids do it.

It used to be weird to me too but now that I have had a kid involved in college cheer for a few years it makes a lot of sense. Most college coaches don't care much about all star - even big conference Universities. Their focus is representing the University on game days and they have more than enough very talented high school kids with all of the skills needed for college cheer and the added benefit of several years of quality game day experience. Obviously there are some schools that focus heavily on NCA/UCA competition and treat tryouts differently, but they are the exception and not the rule, and there are very few non-Worlds level athletes who are going to make those teams, so it makes sense having them Summit weekend or just after. These kids are done their school year by early May at the latest and want to go home since they are back mid summer for workouts and camps!
The University my kids go to/are going to has tryouts right after NCA. It causes havoc with all star and prepping for Worlds (my kid's flight home got cancelled and she missed practice :eek:) but it works very well for everyone else. It's great for the current cheerleaders to finish the season completely the second week of April and then their focus can be on finals and moving home.

 

[alpaca]

I have to ask if the rules about alcohol were completely different for Summit. I’m almost positive that I saw beer trucks at ESPN WWOS during the competition. Parents and adults wearing gym attire were clearly drinking.