coachmomx2
Cheer Parent
- Feb 8, 2010
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WOW! You're a little "cheertective" aren't you!?!?!Not that I want to stick my head in the lion's mouth...but,
Here is the original proposal to get rid of youth 5. Technically it did originate here in NJ ;)
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_YouthTwo_7_24_10.pdf
Here's another one from NJ, also advocating getting rid of youth 5, but creating a Jr open instead.
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_Youth_7_24_10.pdf
Here's yet another one from NJ (and the first from WC) advocating restricted tosses.
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_YouthDivision_Baskets_6_2_10.pdf
Another one from WC advocating restricted tosses
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_Youth_Baskets_6_3_10.pdf
Last one from WC (and last yth5 that I found) advocates restricted tumbling
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_Youth_Tumbling_6_2_10.pdf
So, yes, it does look like all proposals concerning Youth 5 have come from us up here in Jersey. Have at it :p
Not that I want to stick my head in the lion's mouth...but,
Here is the original proposal to get rid of youth 5. Technically it did originate here in NJ ;)
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_YouthTwo_7_24_10.pdf
Here's another one from NJ, also advocating getting rid of youth 5, but creating a Jr open instead.
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_Youth_7_24_10.pdf
Here's yet another one from NJ (and the first from WC) advocating restricted tosses.
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_YouthDivision_Baskets_6_2_10.pdf
Another one from WC advocating restricted tosses
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_Youth_Baskets_6_3_10.pdf
Last one from WC (and last yth5 that I found) advocates restricted tumbling
http://usasf.net.ismmedia.com/ISM2//notesfrommeetings/L5_Youth_Tumbling_6_2_10.pdf
So, yes, it does look like all proposals concerning Youth 5 have come from us up here in Jersey. Have at it :p
Of course they are, but it sure does look like something more is going on here.no one is disputing that suggestions came from nj, the beef here is the courtney pope comments about "self serving agenda's" as if she and Every gym owner isnt looking out for something that benefits themselves. please, parents arent stupid, this is a business.
no one is disputing that suggestions came from nj, the beef here is the courtney pope comments about "self serving agenda's" as if she and Every gym owner isnt looking out for something that benefits themselves. please, parents arent stupid, this is a business.
Ok. This might be a really dumb comment, but I thought it, so I'm going to throw it out there. If everyone is saying that throwing XYZ skill in Youth 5 is so dangerous, and also saying that it's about safety, and kids not being ready to throw skills, etc....wouldn't you as a gym owner make the decision make the choice to say, this skill isn't worth winning for? Just my thought of the day.
As long as they don't get rid of mini 5
The first proposal is to eliminate Y5 and the second is to eliminate Y5 and go to an Junior Open 5. These proposals are offered and supported by Just Cheer, NJ Spirit Explosion and Evolution all NJ gyms. The next three proposals are from WC and suggest tumbling and tossing restrictions as you stated. Mark Mazzuchelli (sp) who has been the Twinkle coach for a few years is suggesting the restrictions. This seems to suggest that WC wants the Y5 division just with restrictions? The other NJ gyms banding together to shut down Y5 now thats a whole new layer..lol
I understand your skepticism and I should have posted where it was written, It was said by her on FB on Joseph Carpinetti's wall. I was not being hypocritical, I was making an making observation that she blatently made the point that WC was pushing this for self-serving reasons when in the end all sides are self-serving in some way or another. It is okay to express ones self without putting another gym down. Large gym or small gym she is a coach who, by choosing the occupation she did, put herself in the position to be a role-model and leader. So the way she went about it was wrong and sets a bad example of how to express ones view to her athletes. She doesn't have to want to get rid of the division, she can express her views, all without calling out a specific gym. CEA has amazing athletes of all ages who should know this sport is filled with politics but how to handle everything in stride and with pride in themselves and it is my opinion that is not the example that was set.
How can you make such an argument. As a parent I think our children's safety should be taken into account just as much as the bottom line of a Gym, if not more. As a coach and owner and a parent I would think you would have to agree. You as every other owner put your bottom line first. You have to, If you can not make ends meet than there will be no program. Your Program Does Not have an off season, if you did you would lose income. Your program encourages cross overs, agin it is a business model and choice that works for you, and you have argued for it, but it also can be argued is not a safe one for young athletes.
We have no season, it goes 12 months a year. There is no off time for these kids to rest and get healthy. Ask any Orthopedic or Trainer in any sport, the body needs time off to recover and get stronger. EVERY MAJOR SPORT has an off season. For the simple fact that the athletes need the time to rest.
The human body no matter the age can not take the punishment. There needs to be time off for the body to recover no matter your age. We need to set rules of progression to keep our sport strong.
The health of the child athlete should be protected by parents and coaches alike, as well as the NACC, USASF and its Member Gyms. There will still be a place for these kids to compete. There will always be a place for the Highly Skilled Talented Child to compete, Those few are the minority however and will allow the majority to progress and be in the proper division as the progress.
I see no harm that will come from this possible rule change. If it protects a child from injury, forces progression as well as helping the bottom line, How is that so bad? As a Coach and a Parent I would hope you felt the same.
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