All-Star Kudos/brag Post!! Add Yours Too!!

[dat.jpp]

In Illinois you are not allowed to cheer both All Star and School cheer by IHSA rule until AFTER State championships. I know with many of the schools we work with over 1/2 the squads are former All Star cheerleaders. Most school squads get additional training, choreography, stunt work and tumbling training in All Star facilities.

So in short many train just like All Stars do, and even in All Star facilities using their equipment and coaches - they just don't compete in All Stars.

oh that sucks... do you why?

 

[mariahnicole1216]

oh that sucks... do you why?

I'm sure it's probably political, but also scheduling can become an issue. Like tumbleyoda said, most end up doing quarter season teams which start up around this time of year (usually the weekend right after state). That's what I always did, and I actually preferred it. I got the best of both worlds but I didn't feel like I was drowning in cheer like I would if I was doing both at the same time.

 

[mischiefmanaged]

In Illinois you are not allowed to cheer both All Star and School cheer by IHSA rule until AFTER State championships. I know with many of the schools we work with over 1/2 the squads are former All Star cheerleaders. Most school squads get additional training, choreography, stunt work and tumbling training in All Star facilities.

So in short many train just like All Stars do, and even in All Star facilities using their equipment and coaches - they just don't compete in All Stars.

Arizona is the same you can't do both high school cheer and all stars.

 

[tumbleyoda]

I'm sure it's probably political, but also scheduling can become an issue. Like tumbleyoda said, most end up doing quarter season teams which start up around this time of year (usually the weekend right after state). That's what I always did, and I actually preferred it. I got the best of both worlds but I didn't feel like I was drowning in cheer like I would if I was doing both at the same time.

Correct it is political mainly. They want to preserve the "illusion" that these athletes have only cheered school and therefore have learned every skill that they have thru cheering at school. I know in my area you have many families whose dream is for their child to cheer on the school team so they only cheer All Stars to get the tumbling and stunting skills needed for High School tryouts. In my area most of the High School teams ask you have to have a running tuck and standing tuck at minimum, with the larger schools requiring layouts, fulls and specialties to fulls to have a serious chance at making the squad. With Northern Illinois being the stronger region in school cheer, I can only imagine what is needed up there.

A second issue is scheduling to be sure. A lot of times school cheer is sold as less expensive and time consuming than All Stars but I can guarantee you the top teams in this State practice just as much or more than All Stars and they spend way more than they advertise. While they don't have the hotel stays as much, camps, choreography, music, training, private lessons, stunt group lessons, projects, etc takes up those savings pretty quickly.

 

[Official OWECheer]

I know in my area you have many families whose dream is for their child to cheer on the school team so they only cheer All Stars to get the tumbling and stunting skills needed for High School tryouts. In my area most of the High School teams ask you have to have a running tuck and standing tuck at minimum, with the larger schools requiring layouts, fulls and specialties to fulls to have a serious chance at making the squad. With Northern Illinois being the stronger region in school cheer, I can only imagine what is needed up there.

Holy crap.

 

[tumbleyoda]

Holy crap.

Looking at the three larger schools we work with (we have about 12 currently), each one has close to 50 percent fulls or more. The one that placed top 10 has several kids with specialty to fulls, double fulls, standing fulls, cartwheel fulls. On that team over 3/4 of them cheered for our gym at least two seasons BEFORE they went to High School. Most still take private lessons with one of our staff members. We are in effect their feeder gym...lol.

If we could retain those athletes just from those three schools - all within 15 minutes of our gym we would very easily have at least a large and a small Worlds division team, and make it to day 2, if not finals. But the way Illinois is set up....

 

[Official OWECheer]

Looking at the three larger schools we work with (we have about 12 currently), each one has close to 50 percent fulls or more. The one that placed top 10 has several kids with specialty to fulls, double fulls, standing fulls, cartwheel fulls. On that team over 3/4 of them cheered for our gym at least two seasons BEFORE they went to High School. Most still take private lessons with one of our staff members. We are in effect their feeder gym...lol.

If we could retain those athletes just from those three schools - all within 15 minutes of our gym we would very easily have at least a large and a small Worlds division team, and make it to day 2, if not finals. But the way Illinois is set up....

Good god. Imagine these teams at UCA or NCA?

 

[LittleMissA17]

Can Illinois teams leave state for competition? I could picture them at NCA since their format is so similar.

 

[tumbleyoda]

Good god. Imagine these teams at UCA or NCA?

It would be crazy. Of course they still would have to hit. :)

 

[tumbleyoda]

Can Illinois teams leave state for competition? I could picture them at NCA since their format is so similar.

Not sure on that. I would have to ask our School team director about that.

 

[cheermommaRN]

Not a cheer brag but...
A couple weeks ago cp tried out for her HS drill team. It's a 5 time national winning dance team and she had zero dance experience outside of all star. Over 60 girls tried and out, they took the natural break at 35. She made the team! The dance instructor was apprehensive about how she would do and even suggested waiting until next year. When she heard "cheer" she thought of rec/school cheer. She didn't realize that senior level all star choreography is pretty intense sometimes.
So we are done with cheer but super excited about poms. She gets to perform at FNL all fall and then they compete all spring!

 

[retiredl5cheer]

Not a cheer brag but...
A couple weeks ago cp tried out for her HS drill team. It's a 5 time national winning dance team and she had zero dance experience outside of all star. Over 60 girls tried and out, they took the natural break at 35. She made the team! The dance instructor was apprehensive about how she would do and even suggested waiting until next year. When she heard "cheer" she thought of rec/school cheer. She didn't realize that senior level all star choreography is pretty intense sometimes.
So we are done with cheer but super excited about poms. She gets to perform at FNL all fall and then they compete all spring!

WOOOOO! That's really exciting. Best of luck to her!

 

[cheer25mom]

Not a cheer brag but...
A couple weeks ago cp tried out for her HS drill team. It's a 5 time national winning dance team and she had zero dance experience outside of all star. Over 60 girls tried and out, they took the natural break at 35. She made the team! The dance instructor was apprehensive about how she would do and even suggested waiting until next year. When she heard "cheer" she thought of rec/school cheer. She didn't realize that senior level all star choreography is pretty intense sometimes.
So we are done with cheer but super excited about poms. She gets to perform at FNL all fall and then they compete all spring!

I did this in high school. It SOOO much fun!

 

[Cinn124]

My babygirl this afternoon!

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

So much YAS for that one. ^^^