All-Star Nfinity And Usasf No Longer Sponsor Worlds

[mstealtoyou]

Remember the day's when you didn't know who BlueCat really was? You thought you knew but there was a slight chance you were wrong. Verified member.....check. I just found it funny.

 

[NJ Coach]

I feel as if the industry is starting to do TOO MUCH!!!! Lets just rewind back to 2008 and before, there were not as many problems as there are now in the industry.

I disagree wholeheartedly

 

[p.o.k.]

But isn't the Champions League basically a popularity contest?:confused:

Do you mean to get in or about the actual competition? Just curious..... Since it is a group of gym owners, isn't it the gym owners calling themselves popular basing participation on some veiled criteria. Which is fine but state it up front - I think in the beginning there was some lack of information on who was determining participation - when the tweets were going out.

 

[CheerMom69]

Do you mean to get in or about the actual competition? Just curious..... Since it is a group of gym owners, isn't it the gym owners calling themselves popular basing participation on some veiled criteria. Which is fine but state it up front - I think in the beginning there was some lack of information on who was determining participation - when the tweets were going out.

Getting in. A mastermind or two started it and it had to grow from there. I personally think it will be a fantastic event and look forward to it. However, if the owner of XYZ no-name gym wanted to hop on Board and was willing to chip in his fair share, I don't think enthusiasm alone (even with resources) gets you in the league. My initial response was to a poster that said the "cool kids" were cool in 7th grade. My point is I still think the cool kids are alive and well and running the CL. I think it will be a great event and attended by fantastic teams, but it's definitely being run by the cool kids... (in my opinion)...

 

[X-sam]

It didn't pull out...........their contract wasn't renewed because Varsity want's you to buy their shoe. Which isn't comparable to Nfinity in my opinion. Just like Varsity doesn't want gym owner's to have "choices", which is why they buy up all the good competitions.......they don't want their customers to have a choice either.

monopoly

 

[Just-a-Mom]

My problem with these "invitation-only" exclusive competition-amongst-competitions, particularly the Champions League, is not so much that they are hurting the unity created by Worlds as much as they are sort of perpetuating the same aura of shadiness that made certain industry leaders want to create other options besides USASF Worlds in the first place. Had the "league" been more transparent with the details of who was responsible for forming it, then it would make more sense why certain teams that aren't exactly the best of the best in their respective divisions were invited. It also makes me wonder if certain teams will ever be invited due the "in-crowd only" vibe that this particular event gives off. Of course, the coaches of the teams that actually were invited probably feel that there is nothing at all shady about it, but image is what people on the outside think. I'm pretty sure there are more than a few outsiders who still don't get it.

I'm all for having other Olympic-like options, but every team should have the equal opportunity to qualify for any and all of these events based SOLELY on specific guidelines dealing with pure skill in the current season rather than an expired track record of winning or a history being a fan favorite. As of now, I don't see these types of events advancing our industry as much as I see them ONLY benefiting the big name programs who are already at top of the ladder.

But isn't the Champions League basically a popularity contest?:confused:

That was that poster's point - that new competitions would be great IF they were innovative and had integrity. But they're not... pretty sure she was saying CL is just a popularity contest so it's not really innovative, and since this isn't 7th grade it isn't cool, or cute. Therefore it's NOT in her category of new, innovative competitions that have integrity.

I included her original post to get the whole idea.



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[CheerMom69]

That was that poster's point - that new competitions would be great IF they were innovative and had integrity. But they're not... pretty sure she was saying CL is just a popularity contest so it's not really innovative, and since this isn't 7th grade it isn't cool, or cute. Therefore it's NOT in her category of new, innovative competitions that have integrity.

I included her original post to get the whole idea.



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Thank you @Just-a-Mom . Since the posts weren't together, I didn't put them together... Apparently, we agree.:p

 

[Jennie]

My imagination isn't strong enough to compute a USASF = Apple analogy. (In fairness, I have a big blind spot when it comes to Apple.)

I think it means that there are lots and lots of phones made by other companies that are better than the iPhone but everyone continues to purchase iPhones because of their 'prestige' and the name.
There could be lots of competitions better than USASF Worlds but people will still continue to attend Worlds because its "Worlds".
(If I have understood the post correctly)

 

[mycheerforlife]

I think if teams get a paid bid they are going but this may decrease the amount of at-large teams we see. I kind of saw this coming and want a written record of me saying that if Revolution and CL take off, Worlds may become "so last year"...

sorry but can you define CL for me ?

 

[Mr May]

I think it means that there are lots and lots of phones made by other companies that are better than the iPhone but everyone continues to purchase iPhones because of their 'prestige' and the name.
There could be lots of competitions better than USASF Worlds but people will still continue to attend Worlds because its "Worlds".
(If I have understood the post correctly)

You got the point. Market share can always change, but when there is a stranglehold on it, it's much more difficult. And IMO a few big name teams and some money is not going to change the game. More options yes but not a game changer. Otherwise jamfest super nationals would be the new worlds.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

sorry but can you define CL for me ?

Champions League. I'm on my phone and can't link but you can search it on here and get more info than you could ever need. :)

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[BlueCat]

I think it means that there are lots and lots of phones made by other companies that are better than the iPhone but everyone continues to purchase iPhones because of their 'prestige' and the name.
There could be lots of competitions better than USASF Worlds but people will still continue to attend Worlds because its "Worlds".
(If I have understood the post correctly)

Thank you. I wouldn't concede that other phones are better than iPhones necessarily based on technical stats. There are certainly other phones that are better at specific things, but the iPhone/iPad/Mac cross-platform ecosystem strengths lie in it's elegance, consistency, and ease-of-use. Those type of things don't lend themselves well to side-by-side stats comparisons. I'm not saying there aren't good reasons to buy other phones, but I'm not going to just automatically allow that iPhones are inferior. (Sorry, defending Apple is buried deep in my DNA.)

 

[BlueCat]

You got the point. Market share can always change, but when there is a stranglehold on it, it's much more difficult. And IMO a few big name teams and some money is not going to change the game. More options yes but not a game changer. Otherwise jamfest super nationals would be the new worlds.

I don't think anyone involved in CL thinks they can just throw a competition and change the industry overnight.

 

[12stepCheermom]

I disagree wholeheartedly

Agreed.

Change is inevitable. Growth is optional. - someone smarter than me.


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[SharkDad]

I kinda laugh when I see someone call "worlds" and Olympic style event. Uhhh if your not in an international division its just a one day national! The "best of the best" already do compete at one event... NCA! all of the top teams at worlds already competed a month earlier there! And, over TWO days so if you want to see the BEST thats the place to go! International teams have competed there for years. I mean truly when the same six teams in large sr compete over two days and one is a NATIONAL champion then they go to the comp in FL, compete one time then supposedly they are WORLD champions and some how more prestigious?? yeah that makes a lot of sense!! Heck NCA was handing out bids to 18th place teams! The only reason worlds got such a name was because all the cheerleaders got to have fun together at the all star resort and play at Disney! if they moved to to any other city I'm sure it wouldnt be as big a deal to the cheerleaders. Think vacation with cheer! Bottom line worlds is just a name/word (which is why varsity/usasf is protecting the word Worlds) and its just a fundraiser for USASF/VARSITY. The best thing that could happen would be for it to disappear.

No one wins Worlds with only 1 day of competition.