Top Teams - Opinion

Discussion in 'Allstar Cheerleading' started by BlueCat, May 24, 2013.

  1. NEliteSteven

    NEliteSteven Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Brandon Senior Black
    California Allstars Large Coed
    California Allstars Smoed
    California Allstars Lady Bullets
    Cheer Athletics Panthers
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    Cheer Extreme SSX
    Gymtyme Pink
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  2. HeatUniqueJ

    HeatUniqueJ Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    3.F5
    4.Cali Lady Bullets
    5.Orange
    6.Shooting Stars
    7.T&S Obsession
    8.Gymtyme Pink
    9.Fame SuperSeniors
    10.SSX
    11.CEA Senior Elite
    12.CA Cheetahs
    13.Coed Elite
    14.Top Gun
    15. Cali SmoEd
     
  3. Jessicalynn

    Jessicalynn Best Flyer.. on a parent team

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    In no particular order

    World Cup shooting stars
    CA panthers
    CA cheetahs
    CA wildcats
    Cali smoed
    Cea senior elite
    Brandon senior black
    Top gun large coed
    Top gun oo5
    Stingrays orange
    ECE fame
    CJA small all girl
    Cali aces
    Maryland twisters f5
    Top gun lady jags




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  4. cheerleader_4_life

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    Top 10-no particular order

    Cali lady bullets
    ICE lady lightning
    Cali smoed
    Cali Aces
    TGLC
    Cea Senior Elite
    Cea Coed Elite
    CA Panthers
    Cea Ssx
    Cheersport Great white sharks





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  5. BamaCheerGuy

    BamaCheerGuy Somewhere... some one.... is giving me a slow clap

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  6. luv2cheer92

    luv2cheer92 Moderator Staff Member Bracket Winner Video Curator

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    So I decided to look at this more objectively and calculated scores for the top teams. Using a scale that included giving more points towards more recent wins, I gave the following:
    pre 2010: NCA Win= 3 pts. Worlds- 1st= 3 pts, 2nd= 2 pts, 3rd= 1 pt
    2010-now: NCA Win= 6 pts. Worlds- 1st= 6 pts, 2nd= 4 pts, 3rd= 2pts, essentially doubling the points. It was hard to determine what to use so for some teams I used the name and some I used the division. In order the results were:
    1. Stingray Orange (small senior/med senior) = 61 points
    2. Spirit of Texas Coed (limited/med coed) = 52 points
    3. Cheer Athletics Large Senior (Supercats/Panthers)= 44 (if you add in Panthers 2011 and 2012 = 56 points)
    4. Top Gun Large Coed (added semi limited 2011)= 43 points
    5. World Cup Shooting Stars = 42 points
    6. TIE Cheer Athletics Large Coed (Wildcats/Cheetahs)= 34 points
    6. TIE California Allstars Large Coed = 34 points
    8. Twist and Shout Coed (limited/med coed)= 32 points
    9. Maryland Twisters F5 = 29 points
    10. California Allstars Smoed= 28 points
    11. Georgia Allstars Coed (large coed/med coed) = 27 points
    12. TIE Cheer Extreme Senior Elite= 24 points
    12. TIE California Allstars Lady Bullets = 24 points
    14. Brandon Senior Black= 23 points
    15. TIE Stingray Smoke= 18 points
    15. TIE Gymtyme Coed (Black/Platinum)= 18 points
    16. ACE Warriors (large coed/limited coed/semi-limited)= 17 points
    17. Cheer Extreme Coed Elite= 16 points
    18. Cheer Extreme SSX= 12 points
    19. Tribe Chiefs= 11 points
    20. Rockstar Small Coed (Rolling Stones/Beatles)= 8 points
    21. Woodlands Elite Generals= 7 points
    Now this is definitely not perfect, but it gives you a pretty good idea on where everyone stands.
    ETA: This is just senior teams, if someone wants me to do open teams I will.
     
  7. callmecoach

    callmecoach Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Very interesting! I like the approach you took to this. Thanks for posting.
     
  8. F!ERCE

    F!ERCE Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Some "absences" on people's lists are just silly lol there are some teams that you couldn't possibly truly believe don't belong in the Top 15. Panthers come to mind.

    Anyway, mine would probably be...

    ACE Warriors
    Brandon Black
    Cali Coed
    Cali Small Senior
    Cali Smoed
    Cheer Athletics Panthers (or "Supercats")
    Cheer Athletics Senior Coed (Wildcats/Cheetahs, whichever was in senior coed in any respective year)
    Cheer Extreme Senior Elite
    Cheer Extreme SSX
    Maryland Twisters F5
    SOT Coed
    Stingrays Orange
    T&S Coed
    Top Gun Coed
    World Cup Shooting Stars

    CEA Coed Elite, WE Generals and GA Coed are others that come close, but are, IMO, not quite as sure to be an absolutely knockout year after year.

    I like your breakdown @luv2cheer92. I think if I were going to do something similar, I would probably give a little less weight to an NCA win (or add points for medaling at NCA), but I do like how you did it, too. That must have taken 100 years...lol.

    Using a slightly different scale (Worlds Only, I don't have NCA results in front of me):

    2008 & Earlier: Worlds - 1st, 3 pts. 2nd, 2 pts. 3rd, 1 pt.
    2009-Present: Worlds - 1st, 6 pts, 2nd 4.5 pts, 3rd 3 pts.

    1. SOT Coed - 39
    2. Rays Orange - 35
    3. Panthers/Supercats - 34
    4. TGLC - 31
    5. TIE - CEA Senior Elite - 27
    5. TIE - WCSS - 27
    7. Cali Coed - 23
    8. TIE T&S Senior Coed - 22.5
    8. TIE Cheer Athletics Senior Coed - 22.5 (37.5 if you count Wildcats for the years there was no senior coed team, which would put them in 2nd)
    10. Brandon Black - 21
    11. Cali Small Senior - 20
    12. Maryland Twisters F5 - 17.5
    13. TIE Cali Smoed - 16.5
    13. TIE CEA SSX - 16.5
    15. TIE ACE Warriors - 13.5
    15. TIE CEA Coed Elite - 13.5
    17. Rockstar Small Coed - 10.5
    18. Georgia Coed - 9
    19. Rays Senior Coed (Smoke/Purple) - 7.5
    20. WE Generals - 6
    21. Tribe Chiefs - 4.5

    It is worthwhile to note that some of these teams accumulated these points over far fewer seasons than others. For instance, Smoed has only been at Worlds since 2011 and already has more points (on this scale) than other teams who have been attending for many, many years.

    Weirdly I wrote my list before I calculated these points and my top 15 were the top 15 here, too. Haha strange. Guess I only think about Worlds! Lol
     
  9. Reggaelover

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    TG OO5
    GT Black Smack
    GT Pink Ladies
    Maryland Twisters F5
    WCSS
    Stingrays Orange
    CA Panthers
    Brandon Senior Black
    CEA Senior Elite
    SOT Medium Coed
    ACE Warriors
    T&S Obsession
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  10. Ems

    Ems I have my own cheer message board

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    In alphabetical order by gym, using the division/team name they are currently in:
    ACE Warriors
    Brandon Senior Black
    California Coed
    California Lady Bullets
    California Smoed
    Cheer Athletics Panthers
    Cheer Extreme Senior Elite
    Cheer Extreme SSX
    Gymtyme Black Smack
    Gymtyme Pink Ladies
    Spirit of Texas Medium Coed
    Stingrays Orange
    Top Gun Large Coed
    Top Gun OO5 (IOC5)
    World Cup Shooting Stars


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  11. Jarod_allan

    Jarod_allan I Fierce Board instead of work/study

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    Brandon Senior Black
    California Large Coed
    California Lady Bullets
    Cheer Athletics Panthers
    Cheer Athletics Wildcats
    Cheer Extreme Senior Elite
    Gym Tyme Pink
    Maryland Twisters F5
    Spirit of Texas medium coed
    Stingray Orange
    Top Gun Large Coed
    Top Gun IOC5
    Twist and Shout Obsession
    World Cup Shooting Stars

    This takes into account how successful the teams have been for the last 10 years.
     
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    California Allstars Lady Bullets
    Cheer athletics Wildcats
    Cheer Extreme Coed Elite
    Green Bay Elite Lime
    Gym Tyme Black
    Maryland Twisters F5
    Maryland twisters reign
    Top Gun Large coed
    Top Gun OO5
    Twist and shout Obsession
    Spirit of Texas Medium Coed
    Stingrays allstars Orange
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    CEA Small Senior X
    California Allstars Coed
    Top Gun Lady Jags
    World Cup Shooting Stars
    California Lady Bullets
    Top Gun LS Coed
    CEA Coed Elite
    Cali Smoed
    Cheer Athletics Aces
    Brandon Senior Black
    Twist & Shout (Obsession and Genesis)
    CJA

    I hope I didn't forget any..
     
  14. stingrayallstarsbri

    stingrayallstarsbri Last Pass... on International Open 1

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    Cheer Athletics Cheetahs
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    Cali Coed
    Cali Lady Bullets
    Cali Smoed
    Stingray Allstars Orange
    Top Gun Large Coed
    Maryland Twisters F5
    Cheer Extreme Senior Elite
    Green Bay Elite Lime
    World Cup Shooting Stars
    Spirit of Texas Med Coed
    Brandon Senior Black
    ACE Warriors

    These just came to mind in no particular order.. (Orange is my favorite though :p)
     
  15. LOSALcaliPRIDE

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    Cali Smoed
    CEA Senior Elite
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    Maryland Twisters F5
    Spirit of Texas Medium Coed
    Stingray All Stars Orange
    Top Gun Large Coed
    Woodlands Elite Generals
    World Cup Shooting Stars