Worlds- Saturday SCORES

Discussion in 'USASF Cheerleading WORLDS' started by CheerBizz, Apr 25, 2010.

  1. socratesofcheer

    socratesofcheer I'm an announcer on CBS for Worlds (or should be)

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    I would think most would welcome this "change" after all, it did allow six more teams to advance to finals.

     
  2. cheeromgbre

    cheeromgbre Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    sooo... SCORES anyone?
     
  3. coach513

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    My Team dropped a stunt and had a touch down. So I was not expecting them to make to it finals because the Small 5 division was so hard. It sucked but i came to terms with it. We spent a couple extra days down there played some golf and enjoyed our time. Wednesday morning we were flying back and while waiting at the airport i jumped on here to see what was being said about the weekend. I saw that day one standings and scores were up and to see my team in 29 with both divisions combined was a shock. And a hard pill to swallow. But it is what it is and look forward to having my kids rock it out at next years worlds.
     
  4. Knowcheering

    Knowcheering Somewhere... some one.... is giving me a slow clap

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    I don't know who asked for a division split, but I'm surprised they believed it was a good idea. As people have mentioned, it's not so much the split that was a problem (letting the judges have a short break is good), but it was the fact that they didn't wait until BOTH groups had competed before determining the Finalists.

    As a spectator, I did find that watching 30 teams at a time made it easier to keep track of who did what. After all 60 teams, it was clear that Group B had been stronger and that more Finalists should be coming out of that group. I think it would have worked out great if they had simply waited until both groups were finished before determining Finalists. Instead, the 29th overall team, who outscored enough teams to make them Finals-worthy, missed out because they were "unlucky" enough to compete in the stronger group. Remove the luck part and let the cheerleading do the talking! A Small Limited Coed team should be scored against every Small Ltd Coed team in the competition-- not a random half of them!


    Yes I agree that was good, as the division was very deep, but several teams in the stronger Group B were skipped over. There is no logic there. If we think of any Olympic sport, the thought of the 45th place athlete advancing to Finals instead of the 29th place finisher is absurd. In gymnastics at the Olys, roughly 100 competitors are judged in Prelims. The judges take a break in between groups. At the end of the day, the best scores overall advance to Finals. Nothing complicated and common sense! I don't really think it would be a disadvantage to be in Group A either... If you do well, you will get a good score that will hold up against teams who do worse than you afterward.

    But I definitely DON'T think the answer is making Worlds any smaller. That would be avoiding the real issue. Plenty of the divisions are already on the smaller side as it is. And that 45th place team that got in Finals held its own and placed much better on Day 2. It goes to show you that there are a lot of great teams out there. The answer is not to get rid of them... The answer is to choose Finalists based on their overall ranking rather than a split ranking!
     
  5. F!ERCE

    F!ERCE Slow your roll, Sparkle.

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    Last year people complained because Day 1 scores seemed too "inconsistent" across the 60-some teams. Now, they're complaining when they try to solve the problem and split the division, yet don't want to eliminate any teams? (Not directed at anyone in particular, just a general comment)

    There are either going to be some score inconsistencies on Day 1 or fewer teams attending. There really isn't much of a logical solution here...at least not one that I've heard yet.
     
  6. hopskipandjump

    hopskipandjump I named my pet Sir Fierce-a-lot

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    I don't think making money is a bad thing at all, and it should not be an excuse that everyone uses when there is an issue, but frankly having been a co-owner of a competition cheerleading company, the driving force is money. It has to be - there was 2 reasons why I went into that business - 1.) money and 2.) I thought we would do a better job and give back more to the kids. But every driving decision when holding a competition, from the local high school to worlds has to be about the money. Or you would have no one putting on competitions as that is a very very tough business to be in.