OT Artistic Gymnastics

[a_cheer_leaderxo]

Feel like GB are making too many small but costly mistakes which might end up costing them a medal :S

 

[cheerKT]

Sucks for the US Men, but I'm just very happy they could contend. Arguably their two best gymnasts are at home. They might be (hopefully) more prepared for Rio than we thought.

Now if we can just adjust that team selection method....

 

[fiercerando88]

I'm happy GB beat China. Would've been crazy if they beat Japan too. But even w kohei's fall, he's still kohei.

USA going 2nd-5th on pommels sucks. But I agree w @cheerKT about our two best being at home. Here's hoping they'll be back for Rio!


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[a_cheer_leaderxo]

Soooo over the moon with SILVER for our men and we were 0.4 away from Gold!!! Just imagining how the arena would have erupted if they had gives me chills! Still kind of bitter Uchimura contested his score and pushed us down a medal like he did at London 2012 tho but that's the way it goes! History has been made once again!

It's a shame the US couldn't hold their form on the pommel, really thought they were going to medal, they looked great.

 

[ErinS]

Komova can kick rocks. She's essentially body shaming (and I hate that term and I hate having to use it) the American girls because they're of a healthy size and muscle tone because apparently across all disciples of this sport we're doing something right.

#longlive. #neverforget Bitter Becky. Petty Patty.


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[ErinS]

Can I watch somewhere in replay? I had a busy day today.

I don't know if I overlooked someone answering you, but yeah. YouTube. Livestreams are archived


Eta. Nevermind. It's not. Guess they want you to tune in this weekend

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[FullUpFierce]

YES GB!!!! What a World Championships we are having!! Yet again another great day to be British!

 

[nicolee]

I swear, the "L turn" is the demise of Russia's score on beam. The only member of the team who can truly execute an L turn is Afanasyeva and she wasn't on beam (she probably should have been but kidney infection).

I agree, that skill is a killer for them.
But it's also just a general trend that drives me absolutely nuts. It's probably another discussion for another time, but you know the COP is crazy skewed when a gymnast can fall off multiple events and their team can still push for a medal. Or, in the case of Vanessa Ferrari, win the World Championships...

 

[cheerKT]

I think we saw that the US men can contend when they HIT routines. That's key, because they haven't been doing that too much in the past. Hit the routines and you're in the mix. Start having silly mistakes (OOBs, huge leaps on landings, form breaks like the last few rotations) and you're going to get jumped. It's how the US women continue to dominate, hitting when it matters.

 

[cheerKT]

In pondering over this some more, I've decided there is an immediate need for US pommel specialists. No offense to Brandon Wynn, but we have just as good ring workers. Bring that Yoder guy who is like 18 and really good on pommels. Sure he flung off and onto his head at Nationals, but when he hits he's capable of scoring like a 15.6. And I know Naddour technically started as a pommel specialist but he's really formed into a decent all around guy. It's really depressing we actually put up two halfway decent pommel performances and one pretty good one still couldn't average a 14.1.

If the US women bring a bars specialist, the men should definitely bring pommel specialist.

 

[FlexyTumblerMom]

I agree, that skill is a killer for them.
But it's also just a general trend that drives me absolutely nuts. It's probably another discussion for another time, but you know the COP is crazy skewed when a gymnast can fall off multiple events and their team can still push for a medal. Or, in the case of Vanessa Ferrari, win the World Championships...

A team with falls still winning jackets...I mean medals? Sometimes beating a team that hits because of their level of difficulty, hmmm... I think we've seen that a time or two in this sport too :).

When it comes to gymnastics, as long as it's not so bad that it's a safety issue, it doesn't bother me at all that people often fall when competing difficult skills. It's what makes elite gymnastics so much more exciting to watch - the element of risk vs. reward. If you've ever watched an NCAA meet - hardly anyone ever makes a major mistake, they are all doing mostly the same skills, and all the scores are like 9.8 or higher (unless they fall and then they get like a 9.4 - lol). I'm exaggerating some, but its just not as exciting as the elite meets cause everyone is so perfect. I want some suspense as to what the outcome will be.

 

[nicolee]

A team with falls still winning jackets...I mean medals? Sometimes beating a team that hits because of their level of difficulty, hmmm... I think we've seen that a time or two in this sport too :).

When it comes to gymnastics, as long as it's not so bad that it's a safety issue, it doesn't bother me at all that people often fall when competing difficult skills. It's what makes elite gymnastics so much more exciting to watch - the element of risk vs. reward. If you've ever watched an NCAA meet - hardly anyone ever makes a major mistake, they are all doing mostly the same skills, and all the scores are like 9.8 or higher (unless they fall and then they get like a 9.4 - lol). I'm exaggerating some, but its just not as exciting as the elite meets cause everyone is so perfect. I want some suspense as to what the outcome will be.

Well I completely (but respectfully) disagree :)

I'm a huge stickler for cleanliness. Give me a slightly easier, but beautiful and creative, routine from the 80s any day over these current routines, which basically consist of 90% tumbling with a few half-hearted hand flicks. I don't find it exciting at all to watch someone do a messy full-turn on beam, but I get excited by a perfectly executed tuck. That's not to say I want boring, simple, cookie-cutter routines, but I'd rather see pretty, creative elements than every single girl trying (and falling on) a standing Arabian.

Maybe this is because I spent a lot of my childhood watching videos of beautiful 80s–90s Soviet and Romanian gymnastics. The new system, where everyone seems to fall all the dang time, is a little harder for me to enjoy.

 

[FlexyTumblerMom]

I love good technique too, and that's what the execution part of the score is for in elite, but people w/ good technique fall too. What happened w/ Russia is a perfect example of this - they have the best technique of all on beam and bars, but still had falls.

 

[DancerDude0118]

Finally all caught up on the men's team finals and oh boyyy... that was too intense for my heart. Just when I thought Japan definitely had it, two falls on their last apparatus - high bar... one of which was Uchimura. It's a good thing they had a solid start because that gave them enough cushion for 2 falls on HB and 1 fall on PB.

USA was doing exceptionally well, but alas... their final rotation was also their Achilles heel - horse of death (a.k.a. pommel horse). They should still be proud of what they achieved though, they held up so well even without Dalton and Mikulak. Leyva can be a very strong contender for all-around, just needs to make sure he hits his pommel horse routine!! He was so good until the dismount.

Great Britain was... great, need I say more? Their final rotation on floor was such a crowd pleaser, I must say, Glasgow picked the right year to host the artistic gymnastics world championships. What a great motivational booster going into the final months before Rio.

Oh China, those floor and that one pommel horse routine costed them the gold... they had the highest average difficulty of the night, but for some odd reason just couldn't deliver this time round like they normally do. Both team China and Japan scored 3-4 points lower than they did during finals last year... some evaluation is needed as they proceed to Rio. China's team is made up of the exact same members from their 2014 world champion team with the exception of Xiao (who incidentally was the one to fell on pommel horse and gave China it's only score in the 13s) who has replaced Cheng (basically China's only true vault specialist). They'll need to get him up to speed as the rest already have experience in what it takes to win at this level on the international stage. Yeah, they certainly don't look too thrilled to be in third:

Russia in 4th, same as the women, but I'm actually pleased with what they had achieved because they looked like they were really fighting right till the end. Especially Ablyazin with the incredible floor routine to redeem himself from the self-destruction that happened during qualifications. Also, that Ri vault by Ablyazin was simply incredible, I look forward to watching him during the vault finals.

Brazil didn't feed off their excitement from qualifying to Rio too well... perhaps they got a little too excited. At least they'll be competing on home turf for the Olympics... it should give them the same boost as Glasgow did for team GB.

Final note, F.I.G.s commentator for this championship needs to brush up... on everything. I could hear, in the background, so much more coming from, what I assume, was the BBC commentary. Not every vault is a Yurchenko-entry vault!! Know the names of elements and PLEASE, take time to look at someone's name before you pronounce it during the live broadcast. No more Uchimuri, funky Chinese names or Whilcock (Seriously? Even your own countrymen?!!)

 

[a_cheer_leaderxo]

Final note, F.I.G.s commentator for this championship needs to brush up... on everything. I could hear, in the background, so much more coming from, what I assume, was the BBC commentary. Not every vault is a Yurchenko-entry vault!! Know the names of elements and PLEASE, take time to look at someone's name before you pronounce it during the live broadcast. No more Uchimuri, funky Chinese names or Whilcock (Seriously? Even your own countrymen?!!)

I do love the BBC commentary we get when major gymnastics is on! They know what they're doing and saying, cover lots of action, know the maths and even crack a few jokes, a sample of which includes 'I don't know about Sam Ruggeri the third, more like Sam Ruggeri the triple!' :cool: