All-Star Coach Has Affair With Girl On Senior Team, Would You Let Your Child Cheer Their?

[NJ Coach]

When did morality become optional or debatable? A coach is in a position of power and having an affair with an athlete is an abuse of that power, not any different than if it happened in a school. To think any different is appalling! I'm not sure why I am surprised that people here think it is no big deal!

If this gym knew about it when they hired this person, they should be outed IF FACTS SUPPORT.

That's my question as well. Is it a fact that this happened, or rumor. If it is a fact, obviously I'd have issues with it.

 

[Lazydaisytoo]

Interesting, I had to look up the info for PA. Looks like its about as complicated as our liquor laws.

1: In Pennsylvania, the age of consent is 16. If the minor is under the age of 18, the adult can be charged with "Coruption of a Minor". This is a misdemeanor.[3]. If the adult is in a position of power (teacher, clergy, or Police for example), this is a felony[4]. Even though the age of consent is 16, it is still a crime until the age of 18. Because of this, Pennsylvania is normally listed as if it had an age of consent of 18.

 

[SkyBlue]

What do you think of a gym that hires a coach that they knew had a affair last year (he was married, wife just has 1st child then) with a girl on the senior squad last year at another gym (where he use to coach)? Would you let your cp cheer their? It's a pretty well known gym that hired him, so it's not like they would be desperate for a coach.

Do you have facts that support this? Is it something that is known? Why did this coach leave the old gym, because of this? Did the owners of the old gym know, if they did, (my opinion) but they should have a responsibility to report this to the gym that hired that coach.

 

[SparkleSpankies]

I am not a parent but at the end of the day, if it was in fact truth and not a rumor, I am not sure I would want my child at the gym...

 

[cheer4evah]

If the young women was on a senior team she is in high school. No teacher that had an affair with a student would ever work in a school again. I don't see the difference if it is a coach in a gym. The gym was in error hiring him. I would not want a coach with no regard for right and wrong coaching my child.

I agree with what you are saying as far as the coach/athlete relationship, but just wanted to point out that the athlete in question may not be a high school student. My CP would be eligible to cheer on a senior level team through her sophomore year of college (assuming the age cut off remains the same as now). She will graduate from high school when she is 17, won't turn 18 until Sept. 5 of her freshman year of college, and won't be 19 until Sept. 5 of her sophomore year of college. Since she will still be 18 on August 31 of her sophomore year, she could still cheer on a senior team.

There are a lot of questions that are unanswered in this situation. How old were those involved? If the athlete was 18 or 19 and the coach 20 or 21, it is much different than if the athlete is 15 or 16 and the coach 25 or 26. Since the poster mentioned the coach was married and had a child, I would think he might be at least mid 20s. However, just like a senior level cheerleader isn't necessarily a high school student, a married father could only be 20. My other question is did the athlete's parents know about the relationship? This is the only time I start questioning closed practices. I agree with them 99% of the time, but as a parent how do you monitor these situations if you are not there? I know there are other adults/coaches in the gym, but no one will pay attention to what your child is doing like the parent will.

 

[shadow]

Interesting, I had to look up the info for PA. Looks like its about as complicated as our liquor laws.

Most states have an age of consent. They also have far more stricter laws for adults in position of power like teaches, coaches babysitters.

 

[SkyBlue]

I agree with what you are saying as far as the coach/athlete relationship, but just wanted to point out that the athlete in question may not be a high school student. My CP would be eligible to cheer on a senior level team through her sophomore year of college (assuming the age cut off remains the same as now). She will graduate from high school when she is 17, won't turn 18 until Sept. 5 of her freshman year of college, and won't be 19 until Sept. 5 of her sophomore year of college. Since she will still be 18 on August 31 of her sophomore year, she could still cheer on a senior team.

There are a lot of questions that are unanswered in this situation. How old were those involved? If the athlete was 18 or 19 and the coach 20 or 21, it is much different than if the athlete is 15 or 16 and the coach 25 or 26. Since the poster mentioned the coach was married and had a child, I would think he might be at least mid 20s. However, just like a senior level cheerleader isn't necessarily a high school student, a married father could only be 20. My other question is did the athlete's parents know about the relationship? This is the only time I start questioning closed practices. I agree with them 99% of the time, but as a parent how do you monitor these situations if you are not there? I know there are other adults/coaches in the gym, but no one will pay attention to what your child is doing like the parent will.

Not sure why age is part of the debate except that if she is under 18 whether or not he should be arrested. Beyond that you still have an athlete/coach relationship and for that fact alone, it should NEVER be allowed. If they needed to carry on an affair, then either she should have left the team or he should have left his position as coach. End of story!

 

[Lazydaisytoo]

Most states have an age of consent. They also have far more stricter laws for adults in position of power like teaches, coaches babysitters.

I just meant that its typical PA. Age of consent is 16, but it's still corruption of a minor if they are under 18. And the the position of authority thing. Why not just say 18?

If you're familiar with our liquor laws, they're just as convoluted.

I guess I didn't cast my vote before, but I would not send my kid to a gym where a coach had participated in criminal sexual activity with a minor.

 

[catlady]

I'm all about forgiveness, however with that said, that doesn't mean you give a person that abused their authority over a child another job with authority over children.

 

[JMW]

I don't think I would....BUT - maybe there's another side to the story? Sometimes gossip is not always based on truth!

 

[WorkToWin]

He was married with his first kid and had an affair? I don't care how common cheating is now days... he deserves to go straight to hell in my book. No way in the world I would give him a job... ESPECIALLY since he had an affair with one of his athletes at his last job. Of course assuming it was proved/confessed.

 

[cheermominar]

I am not 100% sure of her age, really you can attend HS up until your 21 but I am sure she isn't 21. She was a senior in HS last year so she may have been 18yrs at the most? He is in his mid to late 20's. He just left his wife a month ago. But for those of you that think it's okay, their are a ton of 18yr old seniors in High School, does that mean it's okay for their teachers to date them or vice versa? Where my husband works he and I couldn't even had dated if I was his secretary or worked under him. I don't know if her parents knew, it's a small town and I am sure they knew. I don't think her parents where ever at the gym or even the comps? Being that she is 10yrs older then my cp and on a different team I never really saw her to know her. From what I understand the gym owners did confront him but he denied it all. Also I believe it's against the law for employers to say bad things about whom they employee? Other people tried to tell her she was making a mistake. This is coaches 2nd affair. His 1st was years ago, with another coach (he was single and she married a child was created from this). That gym owner closed up shop and moved away. So what ever, life moves on all is forgiven that ended and people do make mistakes. But what about the 2nd time (this time around) are "Hoe" coaches okay? The new owner was more then willing to let him stay with some limits (he is not to be their after a certion time, basically trying to make it so he would never be their by himself). He left for the other gym before our season was over. It's sort of a bittersweet, the old and new owners didn't want him but we are a cheer gym with out a coach and who wants to drop everything to come to a tiny gym. Anyway, his ex-wife may have told the new gym all of this, but then she won't get any child support if he doesn't work either. At the end I guess as a parent you have no idea what kind of history your coaches have?

 

[SkyBlue]

I am not 100% sure of her age, really you can attend HS up until your 21 but I am sure she isn't 21. She was a senior in HS last year so she may have been 18yrs at the most? He is in his mid to late 20's. He just left his wife a month ago. But for those of you that think it's okay, their are a ton of 18yr old seniors in High School, does that mean it's okay for their teachers to date them or vice versa? Where my husband works he and I couldn't even had dated if I was his secretary or worked under him. I don't know if her parents knew, it's a small town and I am sure they knew. I don't think her parents where ever at the gym or even the comps? Being that she is 10yrs older then my cp and on a different team I never really saw her to know her. From what I understand the gym owners did confront him but he denied it all. Also I believe it's against the law for employers to say bad things about whom they employee? Other people tried to tell her she was making a mistake. This is coaches 2nd affair. His 1st was years ago, with another coach (he was single and she married a child was created from this). That gym owner closed up shop and moved away. So what ever, life moves on all is forgiven that ended and people do make mistakes. But what about the 2nd time (this time around) are "Hoe" coaches okay? The new owner was more then willing to let him stay with some limits (he is not to be their after a certion time, basically trying to make it so he would never be their by himself). He left for the other gym before our season was over. It's sort of a bittersweet, the old and new owners didn't want him but we are a cheer gym with out a coach and who wants to drop everything to come to a tiny gym. Anyway, his ex-wife may have told the new gym all of this, but then she won't get any child support if he doesn't work either. At the end I guess as a parent you have no idea what kind of history your coaches have?

If this is known and fact, then there are no excuses, this gym should not have hired him. He can find a job in an industry where he would not be working directly with kids/teens. He can be there with limits? What good is that, how do they know he won't get a phone number or give a phone number to get together with an athlete? He doesn't belong working in any gym.

 

[NEliteSteven]

I'm not sure why you're bringing up a first affair, though. That's not really applicable. If I cheat on my boyfriend, it's not really anyone's business at the gym I'm coaching at.
As far as the one with a student, if he was indeed still coaching when this was going on, he should have been terminated immediately. However, a lot of this seems like gossip without any dates and facts.

 

[Mom2Cheergirls]

I agree with what you are saying as far as the coach/athlete relationship, but just wanted to point out that the athlete in question may not be a high school student. My CP would be eligible to cheer on a senior level team through her sophomore year of college (assuming the age cut off remains the same as now). She will graduate from high school when she is 17, won't turn 18 until Sept. 5 of her freshman year of college, and won't be 19 until Sept. 5 of her sophomore year of college. Since she will still be 18 on August 31 of her sophomore year, she could still cheer on a senior team.

There are a lot of questions that are unanswered in this situation. How old were those involved? If the athlete was 18 or 19 and the coach 20 or 21, it is much different than if the athlete is 15 or 16 and the coach 25 or 26. Since the poster mentioned the coach was married and had a child, I would think he might be at least mid 20s. However, just like a senior level cheerleader isn't necessarily a high school student, a married father could only be 20. My other question is did the athlete's parents know about the relationship? This is the only time I start questioning closed practices. I agree with them 99% of the time, but as a parent how do you monitor these situations if you are not there? I know there are other adults/coaches in the gym, but no one will pay attention to what your child is doing like the parent will.

Regardless of age a coach has a responsibility to keep professional boundaries (don't have sex with your cheerleaders) if they can not do that they should not be a coach end of story.