All-Star Drinking Pictures On Fb?

[TheUltimateFan]

I don't know if I'm getting the right point of your post, but my post was meant as like... since the drinking age is 21 in the USA, do you think there's a bigger deal made about 17-18 year olds drinking whereas here our legal drinking age is 19, so there may be less?

That's an interesting question. I have seen judges treat younger offenders more harshly than they do those nearing the age of 21 - within the constraints of the law, of course.

 

[littlebear]

My opinion on this is like many others. I feel as if our cheerleaders are representing our gym, therefore I don't wanna see pictures of them doing illegal things. If it says "work - competitive cheerleader at ____ (my gym name here)" I don't wanna see any pictures of anything bad. There were two girls on my team bullying a guy, and I was pissed over it because everyone knew they were from my gym and I didn't want my gym to have a bad name.

 

[littlebear]

Also, we have younger kids on from our gym on facebook now, also. Their parents mainly use the account and they're allowed to side look and add older girls from our gym, but I feel as if the kids see the older girls drinking on facebook, it's not a good example for them.

 

[AllHeartxo3]

I would NEVER post pictures if I was ever at a party drinking. I'm underage and don't drink at all so I have nothing to worry about, but I think a gym has every right. If they don't want that type of person in their gym then they don't have to have them, especially if in the contract you sign has it stated in there that they won't tolerate it. Not only are you underage, but if you don't have the brains to not post pictures of yourself doing an ILLEGAL activity on facebook, then you shouldn't be drinking at all.

 

[kristenthegreat]

I do feel the law reacts with more severity based on the age distance from the law (harsher against a 16 year old drinking than a 20 year old drinking). HOWEVER, what I must also point out is that many countries with lower drinking ages, also have higher driving ages (Lowest age- New Zealand at 15. Most Euro countries are in the 17-18 range, which is also typically their drinking age) Which I wouldn't be opposed to..far more damage is done by people behind the wheel than with a bottle. Drinking is more of a personal danger..

 

[ssccxnce]

Okay quick question. My friend brought up a point and I wondered how people felt about it. Sparing the "it's still illegal" comments, do you think because America's legal drinking age is so high? Here it's 19, in some provinces 18, so drinking at age 17-18 is a bit different as there isn't much of a significant difference between being 18 and being 19, providing you mature at a normal rate. Does it make a difference or?

i personally feel this makes a HUGE difference, i think in canada most adults seem to be A LOT more relaxed about drinking underage because it is so low and they always relate it back to how they were young and they did it to personally i dont care if your out every night partying thats your buisness theres the untag button for a reason the only problem i have is last year girls on a gym i know created an album saying it was "team bonding" were wearing bows and practice t's and had coaches tagged in pictures (they werent actually there however)

 

[chyeeaaa69]

I do feel the law reacts with more severity based on the age distance from the law (harsher against a 16 year old drinking than a 20 year old drinking). HOWEVER, what I must also point out is that many countries with lower drinking ages, also have higher driving ages (Lowest age- New Zealand at 15. Most Euro countries are in the 17-18 range, which is also typically their drinking age) Which I wouldn't be opposed to..far more damage is done by people behind the wheel than with a bottle. Drinking is more of a personal danger..

Our legal age to drive alone generally sits around 17. You can get your G1 at 16, but you have to drive with a licensed driver until a year is over, or you've taken Driver's Ed, which makes it 8 months that you have to wait. Now (as of... last year? or the year before) they are MUCH stricter on people under 21 drinking and driving, so maybe that's a good step. I wanted to bring it up because to me, drinking a year underage is not THAT big of a deal. Sure you're underage, but what difference is a few months gonna make? I do see how it can be interpreted differently in countries where there is a greater separation between the age people generally start drinking (though I'm noticing that age now becoming 12-14, whereas when I was entering high school, it was surprising for anyone in grade 9 or 10 to really get DRUNK) and the legal age.

 

[AndyT_T]

Okay. I'll be the one that has to do this.

Newsflash. Kids are/have always been doing it.
I'm not an alcoholic or a stoner, but I am a teen.

When I was in High School I was generally the DD, but that doesn't mean I've never drank or experimented.
Don't even get me started on the whole "Weed and why it's illegal: Political, Health, and Scare Tactics" but 42% of the nation has tried weed (Imagine how the number would have changed if the pollees hadn't been taking a pole on something illegal).
Hell, The first time I tried it I was with my boyfriend. A cop. And a dang good one at that.

Alcohol is a totally different thing, again don't get me started.

I don't think you should EVER post ANYTHING about either of those things online. Especially not if it's somewhere where your name will be attached to it. That ish is forever.
But, as a program, your first concern should be the teen.
I feel like the program should be concerned with the health of the young adult, but part of that is offering support for the teen. Not supporting what they are doing, but providing a positive environment would probably be better than turning your backs on them.
Instead of kicking them off of the team (giving them even MORE disposable time) would probably not help getting them to stop. Just saying.

 

[AndyT_T]

Sidenote: I DO NOT CONDONE DRINKING AND DRIVING.

 

[cheergirl4444]

I kind of agree with chyeeaaa69 on this. teenagers are going to do what they want to do. Drinking is going to happen whether parents, coaches, etc. like it or not. I think when teenagers have pictures posted on their facebook of them drinking they are posted for their friends to see, not for their coaches. My high school has a strict policy about this. if you're caught drinking, suspended for 2 weeks no exceptions. about 4 8th graders on the freshmen team were recently suspended for this reason. it has happened on the varsity team a few times also. they don't care how good you are or how much you drank. I personally think it is dumb when people put pictures of them partying on facebook, their just hurting themselves. but I also feel as though your life outside of cheerleading should be your own. I understand the policy for high school sports teams but for allstar i don't get it. its not the gym's business. I am 18 years old and proud to say i have never even had a sip of alcohol. it is completely against what i believe in. i have lost a few friends over it because they don't see the reason behind my not drinking, but i realized who my true friends were. i still go to parties and have my share of fun i end up being the DD all of the time. I was a coach for pop warner cheerleading for 5 years and watched a handful of girls grow up. i am very close with them and they look up to me as a big sister. i have talked to them about alcohol and i want to be the best role model possible for them. the only way to do this is to practice what i preach, not drinking alcohol.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Our legal age to drive alone generally sits around 17. You can get your G1 at 16, but you have to drive with a licensed driver until a year is over, or you've taken Driver's Ed, which makes it 8 months that you have to wait. Now (as of... last year? or the year before) they are MUCH stricter on people under 21 drinking and driving, so maybe that's a good step. I wanted to bring it up because to me, drinking a year underage is not THAT big of a deal. Sure you're underage, but what difference is a few months gonna make? I do see how it can be interpreted differently in countries where there is a greater separation between the age people generally start drinking (though I'm noticing that age now becoming 12-14, whereas when I was entering high school, it was surprising for anyone in grade 9 or 10 to really get DRUNK) and the legal age.

Well, considering how STUPID I've seen some 16 year olds be behind the wheel (especially with this whole texting and driving fad. THAT has been a nightmare on its own), I'd personally raise the driving age to 18. Or make it 17 permit with an adult..now that 16 year olds are partying hardcore, I don't want to add them PLUS new driving stuff to the mix. Bad news bears.

Once you hit 20, the drinking thing becomes less of a problem for me. I believe, though, the OP is in HS. Quite frankly, while I know HS kids do it, THAT is a situation in which I feel like somebody should take a stand on it. Those kids are still minors after all (nevermind underage)..

 

[kyyyyyyxo]

So I thought I would relate this topic to a different view to put it in perspective.

It seems to me as if many cheerleaders do as I did and join a sorority in college. If you are in a sorority you can pay $1,000 ++ and some big schools over $5,000 a year to go to formals, socials, date parties, sisterhoods, etc.You can take positions, it teaches great time management, it looks great on a resume, you get a great college experience, and it is a fun time. At the same time, after you are a member you are subject to the rules of that sorority, and if you break them you can be terminated and you do not get reimbursement. Who wants to explain to daddy that they just paid a pretty penny and then you got kicked out? Personally, I know that my tagged pictues must be private. Even though I am now 21, I can have no pictures of me drinking, holding a drink, holding a red cup/ blue cup / green cup / pink cup, or have alcohol bottles in the background. I can not post a status that is extremely vulgar, swears, negative about other sororities/fraternities, negative about my sorority. We have a facebook that our executive board has the password too, we are required to be friends with that "person" and if they like your picture, you have to delete it. If you dont? You get your socials / date parties / formals taken away and a fine. You dont again? You get kicked out. You dont get reimbursed and you do not get to write on your resume that you ever were in that sorority. Some may think, why is it their business if your paying to do it. It is their business because it is an international organization that has standards, morals, and expectations. If they let you do whatever you want, it will no longer be prestigious and noone will want to join. Along with that, if you are wearing your letters or clearly at a sorority event, you can get your chapter in major legal trouble. I see it this way. My sorority wants the best for me. They know that people judge you based on these pictures and how you portray yourself online. They know that future employers will not even consider you because of it. They have these rules not only for themselves but also for your own good. If you dont want to follow rules, dont join an organization - clear and simple.

On the same lines, any of you want to cheer in college? Guess what? SAME THING! My freshman year at Kent State immediately after tryouts I was required to add my coaches on facebook. If they saw something they didnt like, it is coming down. As a college cheerleader, you are representing a huge university on many levels. You are a role model and leader. It is simply unacceptable to have it up. I have heard some coaches even look you up at tryouts and even if you are a great cheerleader, if you look a mess online - sorry. A really freaky reason why they did this? When you are freshman in college you meet new people every day, you get hundreds of new facebook friends. If you get someone that looks young and normal and goes to your school, you probably will except it assuming you just forgot. But guess what happens? Your excited to post pictures of you cheering football games, basketball games, in your new uniform. But then a few pictures later a picture of you looking a hot mess. Random person steals your pictures and gives them to websites like "hot college cheerladers" and "college cheerleaders gone wild". When people see your picture in uniform and a mess on a website they arent just judging you, they are judging your university. Do you really think a world class university is going to have that? Dont think so

I believe that all-star organizations has the same rights and reasons as I mentioned above. They have their organization and their brand to protect, and as adults that care about you they also need to protect you. If you dont want to listen to it, then dont join or when you get kicked off or punished, realize that you deserved it.

Another topic to go along with this, what do your coaches do if you are blatantly bashing other gyms on facebook / twitter? I think this is one of the worst portrayals on a gym possible.

 

[cheererinIL]

So.. because teenagers experiment.. it's okay to just let it go when they're caught drinking.. even if it's illegal and could be detrimental to their lives.. because teenagers experiment.. it's "extreme" to kick them off a team for committing an illegal act.

I just want to be sure I'm getting this right.

Common activity does not equal correct activity.

 

[ErinS]

Well, considering how STUPID I've seen some 16 year olds be behind the wheel (especially with this whole texting and driving fad. THAT has been a nightmare on its own), I'd personally raise the driving age to 18. Or make it 17 permit with an adult..now that 16 year olds are partying hardcore, I don't want to add them PLUS new driving stuff to the mix. Bad news bears.

Once you hit 20, the drinking thing becomes less of a problem for me. I believe, though, the OP is in HS. Quite frankly, while I know HS kids do it, THAT is a situation in which I feel like somebody should take a stand on it. Those kids are still minors after all (nevermind underage)..

This is off topic, but in response to this statement....I hate that some 15/16 year olds are irresponsible drivers...however raising the age to 18 wouldn't help. I was 17 when I went to college. I couldn't imagine having positively no driving experience when I'd gone away to college...

That would have been a nightmare.

You'd end up with new drivers partying hardcore in their freshman year off college...away from parental supervision.

I'll pass lol.

 

[cheerforeverever]

I don't think that anyone is arguing that there won't be some kids "experimenting" and whatever for the high school age, but the main point of this whole thread is DONT BE STUPID ENOUGH TO PUT IT ON THE INTERNET. If you want to privately do it, then by all means it is your choice, your decisions and your life. We can try to lead you, convince you not to do it, but ultimately you are the only one that can make that decision. Once you start flaunting it publicly however, you open yourself up to everyone knowing that you broke the law, whatever the result of that may be. Coaches and others will feel the need to address it, because you are 1. representing their gym, 2. breaking the law, and 3. harming yourself and possibly others. If you signed a contract for your gym that said they'd kick you off for illegal activities, then guess what: you made the decision to get kicked off. That's life. There are consequences for your actions.