All-Star Fake Social Networking Accounts

[TheUltimateFan]

I always call the ones that aren't on the reference list. The scary thing is the people who list references, that I also call that give them a bad reference? That means they have issues AND no common sense. Who lists a person who gives you a bad reference??

...and even that whole reference situation is scary. We aren't allowed to give any references, good or bad, for ex-employees. Too many lawsuits. Requests for references are forwarded to Human Resources. They respond with dates of employment, title and salary (and only with a written release from the ex-employee) that's all. Absolutely nothing else.

 

[Ashley]

Can


I hope ztaprincess comes back. I will miss her viewpoints, her insight and her wit. While I agree that moral fiber doesn't change much over time, can I propose another scenario? What if....

What if Whoadeedle started this charade the first time out of boredom or loneliness or for some other reason. Maybe even a malicious one. And maybe she got herself in so deep because she wanted to sustain the wonderful friendships that came about by sharing a common interest. And what if she got herself in so deep that the excuses had to continue to get more dramatic because she was being herded into a corner where she had to constantly come up with a reason why she could never be seen. If she had told the truth then would you have forgiven her? If she tried to come clean here she would have been ripped up and fed to the coyotes. Anyone that was around the boards then knows there is no denying that. It would have been brutal.

Then she was outed. And maybe it was only after she LOST all of those friendships and the camaraderie she had on the board she really recognized what it was she had destroyed. Look at the relationships that have been formed here amongst all of us that couldn't have happened anywhere but here. What if you did something stupid and threw those all away? Would you try to repair them? Would you be afraid to come forward with the truth?

So maybe Ztaprincess appears on the scene and really wants to be a different person - herself. I don't remember her in this persona ever even claiming to be a cheerleader (although we all assumed it because of her knowledge). I don't recall her sharing anything personal at all, ever pretending to be anything.

What if...what if her posts in this thread were her attempt to make amends? To help educate others on what allows people like Whoadeedle to be successful in invading your privacy. I went back and read her posts in this thread and got a different message this time through.

For cheercurl and others that formed what they thought were close relationships with Whoadeedle, I think all of us can understand how much it hurt to find out that someone you invested in emotionally had fed you such a huge pack of lies. I do know I am very slow to forgive betrayal by a friend and doubt I would ever forgive this. I don't think that any of us are trying to undermine your feelings when we say we will miss ztaprincess. We will miss her - we didn't know Whoadeedle, et al.

Or maybe it's just the pain pills from the dentist making me be nice. ;-)

When did the whole woahdeedle thing go down? Like 5 or 6 years ago? She could have been in high school or a freshman in college and made a stupid mistakes that spiraled out of control. Then came back a few years later in her early twenties, older and wiser, so to speak, realizing that what she did when she was basically a kid was dumb. Can you blame her for not wanting to "out" herself? This whole facebook timeline thing reminds me how obnoxious I was 7 years ago when I was a freshman in college and first got my facebook - I'm a very different person.

I didn't agree with a lot of the things she said, but it doesn't seem to me like she was trying to make friends on the board very much here. She wasn't part of any of the cliques that we see here so often.

 

[cheerKT]

When did the whole woahdeedle thing go down? Like 5 or 6 years ago? She could have been in high school or a freshman in college and made a stupid mistakes that spiraled out of control. Then came back a few years later in her early twenties, older and wiser, so to speak, realizing that what she did when she was basically a kid was dumb. Can you blame her for not wanting to "out" herself? This whole facebook timeline thing reminds me how obnoxious I was 7 years ago when I was a freshman in college and first got my facebook - I'm a very different person.

I didn't agree with a lot of the things she said, but it doesn't seem to me like she was trying to make friends on the board very much here. She wasn't part of any of the cliques that we see here so often.

It was only 3 years ago. She was already in college.

 

[xtremeteal4life]

Can


I hope ztaprincess comes back. I will miss her viewpoints, her insight and her wit. While I agree that moral fiber doesn't change much over time, can I propose another scenario? What if....

What if Whoadeedle started this charade the first time out of boredom or loneliness or for some other reason. Maybe even a malicious one. And maybe she got herself in so deep because she wanted to sustain the wonderful friendships that came about by sharing a common interest. And what if she got herself in so deep that the excuses had to continue to get more dramatic because she was being herded into a corner where she had to constantly come up with a reason why she could never be seen. If she had told the truth then would you have forgiven her? If she tried to come clean here she would have been ripped up and fed to the coyotes. Anyone that was around the boards then knows there is no denying that. It would have been brutal.

Then she was outed. And maybe it was only after she LOST all of those friendships and the camaraderie she had on the board she really recognized what it was she had destroyed. Look at the relationships that have been formed here amongst all of us that couldn't have happened anywhere but here. What if you did something stupid and threw those all away? Would you try to repair them? Would you be afraid to come forward with the truth?

So maybe Ztaprincess appears on the scene and really wants to be a different person - herself. I don't remember her in this persona ever even claiming to be a cheerleader (although we all assumed it because of her knowledge). I don't recall her sharing anything personal at all, ever pretending to be anything.

What if...what if her posts in this thread were her attempt to make amends? To help educate others on what allows people like Whoadeedle to be successful in invading your privacy. I went back and read her posts in this thread and got a different message this time through.

For cheercurl and others that formed what they thought were close relationships with Whoadeedle, I think all of us can understand how much it hurt to find out that someone you invested in emotionally had fed you such a huge pack of lies. I do know I am very slow to forgive betrayal by a friend and doubt I would ever forgive this. I don't think that any of us are trying to undermine your feelings when we say we will miss ztaprincess. We will miss her - we didn't know Whoadeedle, et al.

Or maybe it's just the pain pills from the dentist making me be nice. ;-)

Then it sounds like this person needs some time IRL (in real life) and not have us to help enable her. Internet addiction, which plays a part in this type of behavior is very serious. It would be ideal if she's made some genuine friends on here who she can turn to now in her real life for support.

 

[Ashley]

It was only 3 years ago. She was already in college.

Oh I didn't realize that. In any case, I changed a lot my first few years in the "real world" from when I was in college. Not that I'm defending her or her actions, mostly just playing devil's advocate. Maybe she had a lot going on when she was in college, started what she thought was an innocent lie, and then got in way over her head.

 

[xtremeteal4life]

And y'all are welcome for the info on pipl.com! Unfortunately that's not even the "real" deep web anymore...it can get much worse w/the amount of info you can find on a person

 

[stuntjumptumble]

This thread is making me more and more confused...

 

[kristenthegreat]

It's funny, I was just reading through some threads that I haven't looked at yet. Many of her posts got multiple shimmies (and no, I'm not talking about the ones that quote Mean Girls or have a meme), so she obviously had decent things to say that many people agreed on (and I'm not talking in a 'let me just say the popular opinion for shimmies'). She was definitely an asset to the board in terms of dialogue on topics.

 

[Ashley]

It's funny, I was just reading through some threads that I haven't looked at yet. Many of her posts got multiple shimmies (and no, I'm not talking about the ones that quote Mean Girls or have a meme), so she obviously had decent things to say that many people agreed on (and I'm not talking in a 'let me just say the popular opinion for shimmies'). She was definitely an asset to the board in terms of dialogue on topics.

I'm not on either side of the debate on this one, but no one, even those who feel betrayed by whoadeedle/whoever, is arguing that.

 

[ufomom]

It's funny, I was just reading through some threads that I haven't looked at yet. Many of her posts got multiple shimmies (and no, I'm not talking about the ones that quote Mean Girls or have a meme), so she obviously had decent things to say that many people agreed on (and I'm not talking in a 'let me just say the popular opinion for shimmies'). She was definitely an asset to the board in terms of dialogue on topics.

She always was a poster of merit. I think if she wants to be a better person, she owes some individuals private apologies. It is one thing to be a more mature poster and not fake people out with a "fake" life. Real maturity would be to apologize for the immaturity of her past. She was always likeable, so it seems a shame that it had to be a facade. Just disappearing again means nothing has changed in her as far as I am concerned.

I don't need or want an apology, but I was one of those sucked in by a person that was entertaining and likeable.

 

[DJ]

The convo was unreal though.... Bahaha

Understatement.

 

[flcheermom]

She always was a poster of merit. I think if she wants to be a better person, she owes some individuals private apologies. It is one thing to be a more mature poster and not fake people out with a "fake" life. Real maturity would be to apologize for the immaturity of her past. She was always likeable, so it seems a shame that it had to be a facade. Just disappearing again means nothing has changed in her as far as I am concerned.

I don't need or want an apology, but I was one of those sucked in by a person that was entertaining and likeable.

I agree. I wasn't personally affected - but was here at the time and know what happened. I don't think anyone is saying that people can't change. - but where is the proof that she has? Especially with no apology...ever, to the ones that she did hurt by her lies, and knows she hurt. By staying anonymous is not proof of a change - but to me is just proof of not wanting people to find out who she really was/is/has been in the past...which is her choice, as is all of our ours...People have different opinions on this situation - especially the ones not directly affected. I wasn't directly affected but still agree that if she really has changed then I think all parties involved would have accepted an apology, and moved on. -it almost seems like some sort of disorder/disease. I dont think the ones not directly affected by her lies should dimish the affect it had on the ones that were...everyone is different and handles situations (real life, and even internet situations) different...the internet HAS become such a big part of alot of people's everyday life - sometimes the line between real life/internet life becomes blurred. The internet has become a way that some people have met REAL life friends - how many on here have met real life friends? and in this situation when it was thought a girl was in a REAL life situation and was donating a kidney - people rose up to help her. How many have risen up in the cheer community when there have been suicides? tragic accidents? deaths? Illness? We ban together in this community. So this situation was no different to the ones affected...then it turned out to be ALL LIES...so just think how you would feel- after investing so much time and energy in someone you thought was real. It is a tough pill to swallow. And then to know that person has been here all along... This is my last post on this, but just wanted to say we can show some empathy to the ones it did affect, and realize we all have to just be careful on the internet - even here. Continue to post about the sport we all love and learn from it, continue to make friends, remain anonymous :), or an open book - its your choice, just be careful.

 

[kristenthegreat]

She always was a poster of merit. I think if she wants to be a better person, she owes some individuals private apologies. It is one thing to be a more mature poster and not fake people out with a "fake" life. Real maturity would be to apologize for the immaturity of her past. She was always likeable, so it seems a shame that it had to be a facade. Just disappearing again means nothing has changed in her as far as I am concerned.

I don't need or want an apology, but I was one of those sucked in by a person that was entertaining and likeable.

Has anyone here given the impression that they would ACCEPT an apology though? From the way everyone's talking, I don't think it seems like it would do any good. Not saying she SHOULDN'T, but I can understand the weight of your own folly and crimes and feeling like it's pointless to try. Sort of ridiculous to expect someone to try when you blatantly tell them that nothing they say will make a difference lol (not saying you are, it's just the impression I get). Not saying what she did was nice or right, but, ya know, if they want to make amends you can accept the apology. I'm not saying you'd ever have to trust them again, but chasing them into Cheer WP is only going to force them to add another layer of lies to protect themselves.

Again, I do understand that this has personally affected many people in a way it didn't affect me. I am in no way attempting to diminish your hurt or pain or betrayal. Just attempting to add a layer to the conversation that may be painful, but could very well be a possibility. If I'm wrong, then you are no more hurt than you were 2 days ago and we all continue on. If I'm right, then you're probably just as hurt as you were 2 days ago and we STILL continue on.

 

[cupieqt]

...and even that whole reference situation is scary. We aren't allowed to give any references, good or bad, for ex-employees. Too many lawsuits. Requests for references are forwarded to Human Resources. They respond with dates of employment, title and salary (and only with a written release from the ex-employee) that's all. Absolutely nothing else.

We only ask if they would be re-hired. Simple yes or no is all it takes ;)

 

[ufomom]

Maturity would be to offer an apology even if you are not guaranteed it would be accepted.