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I'm pretty sure our gym owner has said that before
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I'm pretty sure our gym owner has said that before
I just think it's really sad when owners/coaches treat their athletes bad after their decision to leave... athletes don't leave unless you give them a reason too or if they're moving... you must of done something wrong or not provided the right things for them... either way you shouldn't burn bridges because you never know if they will come back to you one day... treat others the way you want to be treated... as a business owner, you must please your customers the best you can to make them stay... if you aren't doing that... why wouldn't someone leave? after all they are the ones paying your bills aren't they??
I think of it In-N-Out giving their fries recipe to Burger King.
If that makes any sense.
Unfortunately sometimes there are things you can't provide for them. You can't always guarantee they are going to fly, or be the point flyer, have last pass, be point on jumps or dance no matter how good or bad they may be or how many years they have done it in the past. Sometimes you can't provide a certain level team either because of numbers, age level, or competitive skill set. Sometimes you can't give them continuous tuition breaks throughout the year knowing the chances they will catch it all up and pay in full at tax time is slim and none. And many have left gyms for these reasons - as well as many other reasons. So it is not always treating an athlete bad; sometimes it is owner and coaches not giving in to unreasonable demands that makes them want to leave.
Not really. This is more like if they're teaching the other gym's coaches how to coach tumbling. One athlete receiving tumbling is more like the customer who goes to Burger King for a burger and then runs across the street to In-N-Out for the fries. Neither business is getting everything they want but at least they're selling one product. My advice to In-N-Out would be "Fix up your whole package. You're so busy focusing on making the side dish good you're slacking on the main course. This is not your customer's fault. Better be careful - if they have friends in the car they might all end up across the street getting their whole meal, crappy fries and all." (*Although in my example you'd have to substitute McDonald's for In-N-Out because obviously In-N-Out makes good EVERYTHING)
I also think you guys are confusing banning *one* athlete with not allowing any competitors to tumble at your program. Not allowing any competitors is one thing - see above, I don't really think it's a good decision, but at least it's across the board. Banning ONE athlete because they choose to switch programs, whether you allow other athletes from other gyms to come tumble or not, is what this thread is about. That's usually emotionally driven, not business driven at all. It has nothing to do with not wanting to improve the competition - that's a decision that would dictate a policy for all athletes. This is wanting to punish one family for a decision they made that hurt some feelings.
Side note: once again, this is an attitude I find unique to cheer (and some other youth sports). Most businesses have no interest in "punishing" customers who choose to try a different company. Most businesses want to try to bring customers back. Cheer is the only business I know where business owners act as though we should be thankful they allow us to spend our money at their program. I have never understood (and will never understand) this. Yes, as a business you are free to make whatever policies you want. I just find that cheer more often makes those policies based on emotions rather than business sense. Sorry to be harsh, but the majority of cheer gyms are run by people who wouldn't know business sense if they tripped over it (majority, not all).
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This is a perfect explanation....wish I wrote it. :eek:Not really. This is more like if they're teaching the other gym's coaches how to coach tumbling. One athlete receiving tumbling is more like the customer who goes to Burger King for a burger and then runs across the street to In-N-Out for the fries. Neither business is getting everything they want but at least they're selling one product. My advice to In-N-Out would be "Fix up your whole package. You're so busy focusing on making the side dish good you're slacking on the main course. This is not your customer's fault. Better be careful - if they have friends in the car they might all end up across the street getting their whole meal, crappy fries and all." (*Although in my example you'd have to substitute McDonald's for In-N-Out because obviously In-N-Out makes good EVERYTHING)
I also think you guys are confusing banning *one* athlete with not allowing any competitors to tumble at your program. Not allowing any competitors is one thing - see above, I don't really think it's a good decision, but at least it's across the board. Banning ONE athlete because they choose to switch programs, whether you allow other athletes from other gyms to come tumble or not, is what this thread is about. That's usually emotionally driven, not business driven at all. It has nothing to do with not wanting to improve the competition - that's a decision that would dictate a policy for all athletes. This is wanting to punish one family for a decision they made that hurt some feelings.
Side note: once again, this is an attitude I find unique to cheer (and some other youth sports). Most businesses have no interest in "punishing" customers who choose to try a different company. Most businesses want to try to bring customers back. Cheer is the only business I know where business owners act as though we should be thankful they allow us to spend our money at their program. I have never understood (and will never understand) this. Yes, as a business you are free to make whatever policies you want. I just find that cheer more often makes those policies based on emotions rather than business sense. Sorry to be harsh, but the majority of cheer gyms are run by people who wouldn't know business sense if they tripped over it (majority, not all).
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No wonder you have so many shimmies...That was perfectly said. Your CP's must be older - you have got this market completely figured out. Perfect analogy.