All-Star High School Cheer A Sport In The State Of Kentucky?

[rockymountainthigh]

I have a solution: we start a black market-type cheerleading competition, where schools can compete without the school's athletic administration finding out... brilliant, I know!

 

[King]

I have a solution: we start a black market-type cheerleading competition, where schools can compete without the school's athletic administration finding out... brilliant, I know!

Hah! Except I see so many injuries form High Schools and their non spring floor some days I just wish it would go away.

 

[rockymountainthigh]

Hah! Except I see so many injuries form High Schools and their non spring floor some days I just wish it would go away.

I've got it! We start an underground cheerleading league where teams compete without being associated with their high schools, meaning no restrictions on where they can compete, and they compete on spring floor so there are less injuries. We can call it... all star cheerleading!

 

[believex123]

apparently in new york, cheer is supposed to become a sport really soon, i heard maybe next year but im not really sure so that means they cant go to nationals or anywhere out of state. like someone said before that their schools have to go to state sanctioned events. i believe there was about 17 or so teams from long island alone that go and a few placed really well in finals and theyres one reigning champion team on long island as well and theyres some teams from upstate ny too.

if the same rules apply in kentucky then they cant go to uca, which id say is the state has the most titles and reputations in high school cheer. the schools from there are my favorite teams to watch so it would be a shame if they arent able to go. but i guess it would be good for the other competitors ;)

 

[CheerKatie08]

apparently in new york, cheer is supposed to become a sport really soon, i heard maybe next year but im not really sure so that means they cant go to nationals or anywhere out of state. like someone said before that their schools have to go to state sanctioned events. i believe there was about 17 or so teams from long island alone that go and a few placed really well in finals and theyres one reigning champion team on long island as well and theyres some teams from upstate ny too.

do you cheer on long island?!

 

[CoachC2]

Maybe UCA and NCa would start running state by state championships?

That's what I was just thinking. I mean they are huge brands to just stop doing high school because of this so I'm sure that they would adjust accordingly

 

[CoachC2]

apparently in new york, cheer is supposed to become a sport really soon, i heard maybe next year but im not really sure so that means they cant go to nationals or anywhere out of state. like someone said before that their schools have to go to state sanctioned events. i believe there was about 17 or so teams from long island alone that go and a few placed really well in finals and theyres one reigning champion team on long island as well and theyres some teams from upstate ny too.

if the same rules apply in kentucky then they cant go to uca, which id say is the state has the most titles and reputations in high school cheer. the schools from there are my favorite teams to watch so it would be a shame if they arent able to go. but i guess it would be good for the other competitors ;)

The school I coach at already recognizes it as a sport but thankfully they haven't limited us to out of state competitions. That might change tho once more schools/the state recognizes it

 

[tdittmar]

Our high school decided to make cheerleading a sport, not the IHSAA ( we are from Indiana). It's not sanctioned in the state at all. They tell us we cannot do both all star and school cheer. I want someone to tell me they can't do this? :mad:

 

[hiyoe6]

My understanding is starting in the 2012-2013 school season, New York State will recognize cheerleading as a sport and will no longer be attending out-of-state competitions. I know someone who did a choreography for a NY high school and the coach said they wanted to go out with a BANG! since its their last year they'll be able to go.

 

[mariahnicole1216]

I don't really understand how high school cheerleading rules work... I know there are a lot of stipulations placed on the teams in IL by IHSA, like when they can start practicing, competing, where they can compete, etc. Can a high school choose to just not compete at the IHSA (or whatever it is in your state) sanctioned events at all and just go to other competitions? Ex: You skip all the school competitions and just go to NCA, Jamfest, etc.

In Illinois you're not supposed to compete on a high school team and an all-star team at the same time. Is it like this in the other states where cheer is considered a sport?

I was wondering the same thing. How many states can you do both? Like in North Carolina obviously they can do both, though I really dont understand how that works.

And IHSA makes up the most ridiculous rules like, how we cant legally start practicing with our guys until after football season. So we're considered all-girl until oct.-nov. And my personal favorite, we're not allowed to do choreo for competition until november. There's ways to get around it obviously but why even make such silly rules?

Sometimes I wish it wasnt a sport in IL. Only because we're controlled so much.

 

[rpm99]

The sad part about the rules in Illinois are they are mostly about control, politics and money, with little relevant rules promoting safety.

 

[cheererinIL]

I have to imagine some type of compromise would happen. I think it would be great if UCA/NCA worked together with each state. But I just can't see, IHSA at least, being happy about it.

I have to agree. The IHSA is really strict/controlling on their rules. I went to state this year to watch and the mom's were on the lookout for pouty faces on the girls who had lost because apparently, their year round sportsmanship can reflect poorly to the IHSA or something crazy like that.

Illinois used to have the ICCA (Illinois Cheerleading Coaches Association)- I believe they're still around, and I think you can still participate in both state championships but it gets blurry. I just imagine the high school associations seeing dollar signs going down the drain if NCA/UCA tried to "take over". I would imagine some type of compromise, financially, would need to take place in order for this to happen.

 

[cheerleader1997]

I feel like Pennsylvania is the only state that does not recognize high school cheerleading what so ever. Basically, we can go to any competition we want to and follow AACCA rules. Does anyone know why this is?

 

[CoachD]

As a high school coach in Kentucky - I am not in favor of this happening. I, and the other Varsity coach, run our teams like all-stars (as that is both of our background). We compete 3x per year and travel (Jamfest Gatlinburg, Jamfest Supernationals Indy, Cheersport Atlanta, and NCA Louisville - the 2 Jamfests only count as one).

There is currently a KHSAA state competition (KAPOS State). The regionals (at least in Louisville & Jefferson County) are mandatory for all public middle and high schools to attend - it became open to catholic and private schools 2 years ago or so. Our state competition is not run like GA State competiton - it is based on the size of the squad and/or style of routine - Small, Medium, Large, Super Large, Small Coed, Large Coed, Traditional. KAPOS, imo, is very much UCA style.

Not many of the powerhouses that came from the Louisville area are as strong as they once were - Louisville Male, Dupont Manual, Eastern and others - yet, they still possess a lot of talent. There have been some coaching changes in these schools which has changed the style and focus for these schools away from NCA/UCA and reset more toward KAPOS. More and more area teams are attending UCA camps whereas the majority were NCA campers 3-5 years ago.

 

[King]

As a high school coach in Kentucky - I am not in favor of this happening. I, and the other Varsity coach, run our teams like all-stars (as that is both of our background). We compete 3x per year and travel (Jamfest Gatlinburg, Jamfest Supernationals Indy, Cheersport Atlanta, and NCA Louisville - the 2 Jamfests only count as one).

There is currently a KHSAA state competition (KAPOS State). The regionals (at least in Louisville & Jefferson County) are mandatory for all public middle and high schools to attend - it became open to catholic and private schools 2 years ago or so. Our state competition is not run like GA State competiton - it is based on the size of the squad and/or style of routine - Small, Medium, Large, Super Large, Small Coed, Large Coed, Traditional. KAPOS, imo, is very much UCA style.

Not many of the powerhouses that came from the Louisville area are as strong as they once were - Louisville Male, Dupont Manual, Eastern and others - yet, they still possess a lot of talent. There have been some coaching changes in these schools which has changed the style and focus for these schools away from NCA/UCA and reset more toward KAPOS. More and more area teams are attending UCA camps whereas the majority were NCA campers 3-5 years ago.

What are the chances of this going through and Kentucky not being able to compete out of state?