All-Star Politics In Competitions?

[stuntjumptumble]

I think this topic needs to be discussed. When I say "politics", I mean coach or parent knows a judge or event producer and that is the reason a team gets a certain placement. I have seen this happen multiple times this season. Also, there was a competiton that favored teams from that state. Personally I do not find it a coincidence when teams from one state get first place in nearly all divisions at NATIONAL competition. Is there anything being done to stop and prevent these kinds of things from happeneing? These incidences have occured at big-name competitons. We're all here to cheer because we love it, and shouldn't be worried about teams winning when they clearly don't deserve it. Thoughts?

 

[ACEDAD]

All the placements for national competitions are decided at the summer meetings. If you aren't happy with your team's placement, your coach needs to be attending the meetings.

 

[WorkToWin]

All the placements for national competitions are decided at the summer meetings. If you aren't happy with your team's placement, your coach needs to be attending the meetings.

Made me giggle

 

[cupieqt]

All the placements for national competitions are decided at the summer meetings. If you aren't happy with your team's placement, your coach needs to be attending the meetings.

See you at JamU!

 

[laughAlittle]

competition = politics.

however, this is for almost any sport.

 

[kristenthegreat]

All the placements for national competitions are decided at the summer meetings. If you aren't happy with your team's placement, your coach needs to be attending the meetings.

Maybe if this were true, more coaches would actually attend meetings. Which is sad. :(

 

[BlueCat]

I think this topic needs to be discussed. When I say "politics", I mean coach or parent knows a judge or event producer and that is the reason a team gets a certain placement. I have seen this happen multiple times this season. Also, there was a competiton that favored teams from that state. Personally I do not find it a coincidence when teams from one state get first place in nearly all divisions at NATIONAL competition. Is there anything being done to stop and prevent these kinds of things from happeneing? These incidences have occured at big-name competitons. We're all here to cheer because we love it, and shouldn't be worried about teams winning when they clearly don't deserve it. Thoughts?

Yes, because any time that a person in the crowd has a different opinion than the paid judging "experts" who have studied the score systems, the simplest reason for that MUST be that event producer and/or judge has been paid off or is rigging the scoring to reward a team for political gain. The idea that the someone sitting the stands could simply be uniformed or biased is too far-fetched to even consider.

 

[Mom Jeans]

All the placements for national competitions are decided at the summer meetings. If you aren't happy with your team's placement, your coach needs to be attending the meetings.

and bring snacks...

 

[newcheerdad]

Yes, because any time that a person in the crowd has a different opinion than the paid judging "experts" who have studied the score systems, the simplest reason for that MUST be that event producer and/or judge has been paid off or is rigging the scoring to reward a team for political gain. The idea that the someone sitting the stands could simply be uniformed or biased is too far-fetched to even consider.

I was going to say that "transparency in scoring" would fix all of these attitudes, but I go on plenty of NFL, soccer and MMA message boards and there are all sorts of wacky conspiracy theories about sports where the refereeing and scoring is pretty open and transparent by comparison. I think as long as you have fans, you're going to have fan behavior.

 

[yojaehs]

Haha, I think the replies are almost as funny as the original post.

 

[BlueCat]

I was going to say that "transparency in scoring" would fix all of these attitudes, but I go on plenty of NFL, soccer and MMA message boards and there are all sorts of wacky conspiracy theories about sports where the refereeing and scoring is pretty open and transparent by comparison. I think as long as you have fans, you're going to have fan behavior.

True. However, in the NFL, the referees will let you know how many points your opponent is getting every time you score. They don't just keep a secret journal during the game, then announce the total scores at the end. (without telling you why the opponent got their score)

 

[tumbleyoda]

True. However, in the NFL, the referees will let you know how many points your opponent is getting every time you score. They don't just keep a secret journal during the game, then announce the total scores at the end. (without telling you why the opponent got their score)

True. They also dont judge one touchdown as having an overall impression higher than another, thereby it is awarded just a little something extra.:)

 

[The Sixth]

I'm not a believer in the magnitude of "politics" that the TS seems to be insinuating. However, the fact that there are calls for more transparency in the judging/scoring process is at least somewhat of a sign that we recognize some subjectivity could still be removed from the process.

And in keeping with the football analogy, referees *could* subjectively decide when a penalty is a penalty. Anybody who even watches a little bit of football, can see there are many penalties that go uncalled. Whether those are missed intentionally or not, only a ref could answer. A holding call at midfield on 1st down has a much different impact than on 3rd down and goal to go!