All-Star Stunt Influencing Schloarships

[wcdad]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmxs0KNKDw

i was looking for this, thank you for posting it.

 

[ShoWStoppeR]

when i first heard of STUNT, i legit paid no attention to it. it sounded dumb, so i didn't care to educate myself. well, then my school decided, a very last minute decision at that, to go to a STUNT competition. it was actually very fun and enjoyable, but that's about all i can say for it. once we got into it, the rules became clearer, and it actually ended up making alot of sense, but it wasn't challenging enough. the stunts they use are a joke. like, no lie, i think a youth level 2 could probably do all the stunts, minus level 4 because its finally collegiate stuff. and same with the pyramids and tumbling, it was the basics, with basic formations and basic counts. we decided last minute to do it, got a group of girls together monday, started practicing tuesday, and had to leave saturday for STUNT. by then we had taught ourselves all the material and actually KNEW it and could hit it with our eyes closed. and theres level 1-5 (we only went to 4 because the other team couldnt do level 5) for stunts, pyramids and baskets, and tumbling. and then, the only thing i liked, you put your own routine together to show off your difficulty and creativity. for this, we used RAGS routine, which would sound like a piece of cake, except all of the tops came from coed, and we had to replace bases because, of course, it wasn't mandatory, so we were short girls. and we learned the routine in one night. now mind you, if any of you have seen our all girls routine, it wasn't exactly a walk in the park. but still. i guess my point is, it isn't really challenging enough. and if we were to go to more than one "STUNT off" i would get bored of it. the material doesnt change, so you have no room to grow really. i think the levels for stunts, tumbling, etc, should be made up by the team, just having to have certain aspects. like a transition, or a release move, etc, etc. its just lacking in thought out details, it seems to me like they're rushing to get this approved.

 

[wcdad]

when i first heard of STUNT, i legit paid no attention to it. it sounded dumb, so i didn't care to educate myself. well, then my school decided, a very last minute decision at that, to go to a STUNT competition. it was actually very fun and enjoyable, but that's about all i can say for it. once we got into it, the rules became clearer, and it actually ended up making alot of sense, but it wasn't challenging enough. the stunts they use are a joke. like, no lie, i think a youth level 2 could probably do all the stunts, minus level 4 because its finally collegiate stuff. and same with the pyramids and tumbling, it was the basics, with basic formations and basic counts. we decided last minute to do it, got a group of girls together monday, started practicing tuesday, and had to leave saturday for STUNT. by then we had taught ourselves all the material and actually KNEW it and could hit it with our eyes closed. and theres level 1-5 (we only went to 4 because the other team couldnt do level 5) for stunts, pyramids and baskets, and tumbling. and then, the only thing i liked, you put your own routine together to show off your difficulty and creativity. for this, we used RAGS routine, which would sound like a piece of cake, except all of the tops came from coed, and we had to replace bases because, of course, it wasn't mandatory, so we were short girls. and we learned the routine in one night. now mind you, if any of you have seen our all girls routine, it wasn't exactly a walk in the park. but still. i guess my point is, it isn't really challenging enough. and if we were to go to more than one "STUNT off" i would get bored of it. the material doesnt change, so you have no room to grow really. i think the levels for stunts, tumbling, etc, should be made up by the team, just having to have certain aspects. like a transition, or a release move, etc, etc. its just lacking in thought out details, it seems to me like they're rushing to get this approved.

STUNT will grow and evolve I am sure from year to year. The idea was to allow a new team the ability to compete with a power house. It was amazing to me however just how many teams had trouble with what you call the basics. it was just as much about form , hitting clean timing as well as execution. Where a team stood out was in the 4th qtr, that is where they put there own style into the routine. The rush I am sure was to compete with NCATA thus keeping the NCAA sport in the leadership of USA Cheer and not USA Gymnastics. I thought it went well for the first year.

 

[ShoWStoppeR]

STUNT will grow and evolve I am sure from year to year. The idea was to allow a new team the ability to compete with a power house. It was amazing to me however just how many teams had trouble with what you call the basics. it was just as much about form , hitting clean timing as well as execution. Where a team stood out was in the 4th qtr, that is where they put there own style into the routine. The rush I am sure was to compete with NCATA thus keeping the NCAA sport in the leadership of USA Cheer and not USA Gymnastics. I thought it went well for the first year.

couldnt agree more on this. the stunts got harder as the levels went up, and of all stunts we struggled with, it was level 1 :banghead: stupid front walkover into the stunts...

but now that you mention it, maybe that was their point. bring this sport back to it being about execution. thats great if youve got a girl that can do a pike open double, but if she cant do a toe basket.... yea, i dont know anyone like that. :rolleyes:

i think STUNT will be a good way to reintroduce execution and progression into this sport. and hopefully, wishful thinking i know, prevent such high amounts of serious injuries...

 

[CheerKatie08]

I was fortunate enough to listen to one of the "founders" of STUNT speak about it for a while. My favorite part about it was that a spectator with absolutely no knowledge of cheerleading could watch two stunts side-by-side and know who the winner is. It's easy to watch and although most readers here are slightly "bored" (for lack of better term) by it, it's much more appealing to the general public.

 

[Keep_Believing]

So, does stunt team always perform on a spring floor? If so, do they also try out on a spring floor?

 

[ShoWStoppeR]

So, does stunt team always perform on a spring floor? If so, do they also try out on a spring floor?

STUNT is not performed on a spring floor. its dead mat. or at least it was when we did it. and you don't really tryout. we got asked to compete in STUNT and then our coach was the one that put the team together. idk, you just kinda, do it. haha okay, someone more educated in this can explain the second half.

 

[Keep_Believing]

STUNT is not performed on a spring floor. its dead mat. or at least it was when we did it. and you don't really tryout. we got asked to compete in STUNT and then our coach was the one that put the team together. idk, you just kinda, do it. haha okay, someone more educated in this can explain the second half.

Thanks for the info. :)

 

[ShoWStoppeR]

Thanks for the info. :)

anytime! sorry it wasn't more helpful... maybe i'll actually do my homework and research it lol

 

[cheerforeverever]

So, does stunt team always perform on a spring floor? If so, do they also try out on a spring floor?

At Daytona (NCA College Nationals) they had a representative from usa cheer and basically said at the coaches meeting if you or your team is interested go talk to this guy for more information on how to get a team started. So its up to the college to start a team, though many university club teams were asked to try it out for the inagural season with other universities jumping on board as well. As far as trying out, currently you'd try out for a collegiate cheer team or collegiate club team first and then your coach would decide to have the team compete in Stunt also, or try out at your college specifically for the stunt team if that is an option (they're trying to make it more so that way as this evolves in the next couple of years). Since collegiate cheer and Stunt both compete on dead mats, you'd be trying out and competing on flat mats regardless. Hope that clears it up a bit :)

If you haven't seen a meet before you might want to check out this 4 team tournament before Cheersport: http://www.dartfish.tv/Presenter.as...BAQYFc3R1bnQBARNwMjE4ODhjMjMwMDltMjU3Njg4AAAA
It's a full meet in its entirety with all 4 quarters from start to end and shows on the screen the score after every round.

 

[ztaprincess]

I'm all for cheer staying "not a sport"....once it's regulated by the NCAA, cheer is subjected to NCAA regulations:

1. limited hours: in season is 20 hours per week (game/competition counts as 3 hours) with one "day off" per 7 day cycle, outside of the season only strength and conditioning are permitted, during school breaks (Winter break and summer break) NO mandatory practices at all....student-athletes are on their own to work out (coaching staff can give recommended exercises)
2. drug testing....you'd be shocked at what is not permitted....NO RED BULL.
3. No participating on another team (say adios to joining an IOC6 team)
4. Limiting contact with college coaches for high school students.....this means you have to be careful about your clinics and summer camps.

One good point: You have to sit out a season when you transfer, this would hurt the ring chasers!

I can tell you with that one regulation there could be several teams losing members because they won't pass their drug test. This may prove that some team have many athletes that are not the role models they would like them to appear to be.

I am all for STUNT as long as I can continue to have my NCA Daytona with teams like HPU, Louisville, and SFA bringing their amazing teams. What I don't want to see are these teams take all their girl talent and stack it on a STUNT team and then the talent on their other teams decline. I can't imagine watching Daytona and seeing Louisville All Girl not be the same team that they have year after year with talent coming out of their ears.

 

[MissBee]

I can tell you with that one regulation there could be several teams losing members because they won't pass their drug test. This may prove that some team have many athletes that are not the role models they would like them to appear to be.

Yup. Back in my day it was making "paraphernalia" out of Spirit Sticks you brought back after a summer of staffing and the guys were not all "naturally jacked" and the girls weren't just "naturally thin".