All-Star Stunt Influencing Schloarships

[yojaehs]

Still way more of a fan of NCATA than STUNT, but either is better than neither.

 

[BlueCat]

it is actually a REALLY good thing that either STUNT or NCATA becomes an NCAA sport. We all love cheer, but now it gives purpose to putting your kid in our sport at age 5. As one of them gets bigger in college we will see more and more all-star teams.

As for the guy thing, I wouldn't hold your breath. If it has any chance of ever recognizing guys it is WAY in the future.

While I agree that more scholarships for cheer is a good thing, I don't think that the "chance for a college scholarship" is the only purpose worthy of putting kids in youth sports or all star cheer specifically. There is much more to be gained from the experience that simply a gamble on getting a financial return on your cheer tuition/entry fee/travel money.

I also agree that the dynamics and quotas of Title 9 basically preclude guys from getting scholarship money from either Stunt or NCATA any time in the near future.

 

[cheerleader1997]

I'm kind of confused. What exactly is Stunt?

 

[King]

While I agree that more scholarships for cheer is a good thing, I don't think that the "chance for a college scholarship" is the only purpose worthy of putting kids in youth sports or all star cheer specifically. There is much more to be gained from the experience that simply a gamble on getting a financial return on your cheer tuition/entry fee/travel money.

I also agree that the dynamics and quotas of Title 9 basically preclude guys from getting scholarship money from either Stunt or NCATA any time in the near future.

It gives more purpose into parents trying to make the decision of whether or not their daughter should be in cheer. A lot of our business comes from gripping and grinning OR through referrals. Having an NCAA sport raises awareness and can help lead people to cheerleading as a viable sport for their daughter.

None of us on here needed any more affirmation that what we do is amazing. But in this instance it isn't about us.

 

[Justacoach]

it is actually a REALLY good thing that either STUNT or NCATA becomes an NCAA sport. We all love cheer, but now it gives purpose to putting your kid in our sport at age 5. As one of them gets bigger in college we will see more and more all-star teams.

As for the guy thing, I wouldn't hold your breath. If it has any chance of ever recognizing guys it is WAY in the future.

Thanks. That's what I was trying to say. For people already in cheer, of course we recognize all the benefits. But for new people coming in, spending all this money for your mini or tiny to cheer will make more sense.

 

[MissBee]

Here's what annoys me about it: They are calling it a "new sport". NO. It's NOT a new sport, it's a new FORMAT for competitive cheerleading.

 

[yojaehs]

Here's what annoys me about it: They are calling it a "new sport". NO. It's NOT a new sport, it's a new FORMAT for competitive cheerleading.

Not technically a "sport".

 

[wcdad]

Here's what annoys me about it: They are calling it a "new sport". NO. It's NOT a new sport, it's a new FORMAT for competitive cheerleading.

It is a "NEW" sport for NCAA to make a determination if it is an emerging sport or not. It is new to the NCAA as it has never been a sport to them

 

[MissBee]

I'm all for cheer staying "not a sport"....once it's regulated by the NCAA, cheer is subjected to NCAA regulations:

1. limited hours: in season is 20 hours per week (game/competition counts as 3 hours) with one "day off" per 7 day cycle, outside of the season only strength and conditioning are permitted, during school breaks (Winter break and summer break) NO mandatory practices at all....student-athletes are on their own to work out (coaching staff can give recommended exercises)
2. drug testing....you'd be shocked at what is not permitted....NO RED BULL.
3. No participating on another team (say adios to joining an IOC6 team)
4. Limiting contact with college coaches for high school students.....this means you have to be careful about your clinics and summer camps.

One good point: You have to sit out a season when you transfer, this would hurt the ring chasers!

 

[wcdad]

I'm all for cheer staying "not a sport"....once it's regulated by the NCAA, cheer is subjected to NCAA regulations:

1. limited hours: in season is 20 hours per week (game/competition counts as 3 hours) with one "day off" per 7 day cycle, outside of the season only strength and conditioning are permitted, during school breaks (Winter break and summer break) NO mandatory practices at all....student-athletes are on their own to work out (coaching staff can give recommended exercises)
2. drug testing....you'd be shocked at what is not permitted....NO RED BULL.
3. No participating on another team (say adios to joining an IOC6 team)
4. Limiting contact with college coaches for high school students.....this means you have to be careful about your clinics and summer camps.

One good point: You have to sit out a season when you transfer, this would hurt the ring chasers!

We are all in agreement. Nothing wrong with any of this in my opinion.

 

[King]

I'm all for cheer staying "not a sport"....once it's regulated by the NCAA, cheer is subjected to NCAA regulations:

1. limited hours: in season is 20 hours per week (game/competition counts as 3 hours) with one "day off" per 7 day cycle, outside of the season only strength and conditioning are permitted, during school breaks (Winter break and summer break) NO mandatory practices at all....student-athletes are on their own to work out (coaching staff can give recommended exercises)
2. drug testing....you'd be shocked at what is not permitted....NO RED BULL.
3. No participating on another team (say adios to joining an IOC6 team)
4. Limiting contact with college coaches for high school students.....this means you have to be careful about your clinics and summer camps.

One good point: You have to sit out a season when you transfer, this would hurt the ring chasers!

They won't regulate sideline cheerleading, and all-star would continue on its merry way. International is great and I love it, but having a NCAA sport with scholarship opportunities in college helps all-star (while it would hurt Int teams quite a bit). But we can't have our cake and eat it too, and when looking at which outlook is better for our whole world, I would say an NCAA sport.

Heck, if it became an NCAA sport I might stop calling it an industry! Hah.

As well I see a HUGE snowball effect happening. When one of the disciplines finally wins (either NCATA or STUNT) I can see this spreading VERY far across the US. Large numbers of girls meeting the title IX requirements? Any decent football program in the country will jump on it.

 

[MissBee]

They won't regulate sideline cheerleading, and all-star would continue on its merry way.

And what will become of the sideline teams? My guess is the universities will do away with them to save a few pennies (cause we all know that's how much they spend on cheer). They'll say that they offer it as a Varsity sport, so it's no longer necessary. Sure, the cheerleaders can start up a "club team", but will they be allowed to represent the University? My guess is not on the sidelines. What happens to all the male cheerleaders?

 

[King]

And what will become of the sideline teams? My guess is the universities will do away with them to save a few pennies (cause we all know that's how much they spend on cheer). They'll say that they offer it as a Varsity sport, so it's no longer necessary. Sure, the cheerleaders can start up a "club team", but will they be allowed to represent the University? My guess is not on the sidelines. What happens to all the male cheerleaders?

Why would sideline's disappear? They already offer nothing for the university besides spirit leading, and that would be their job.

 

[socratesofcheer]

International will be just fine IMO. Those who want to cheer on a coed team and throw a double full. BAM. IOC5 & IOC6

 

[Deleted member 8658]

I'm kind of confused. What exactly is Stunt?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmxs0KNKDw