What if what were doing isn't cheerleading, what if it is something else? (serious)

[powerXbaby]

on a more serious note, it could just be called allstar, cut out the cheer part, since this is what most of us refer to it anyways.

 

[cheerislove8]

on a more serious note, it could just be called allstar, cut out the cheer part, since this is what most of us refer to it anyways.

Well if we got rid of the name "cheerleading" we can't call it allstars because what about high school cheer? That shouldn't be allstars. And almost every sport has "allstar" teams.

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[cheermommaRN]

I agree!!!! And just think of all the cross-over possibilities to pull from!!!!! The power tumblers from T & T, the insanely flexible flyers from rythmic, and the extremely strong bases from gymnastics!!!

Yeah but then all the level 5 teams would have to go to Karolyi's for summer camp and get yelled at by Romanian coaches!

 

[hopskipandjump]

Ugh! I HATE that professional cheerleaders are called cheerleaders!! They don't do one single thing that compares to even sideline cheerleading. They dance. Period. End of Story. Don't get me wrong. They are GREAT dancers/entertainers, but they certainly are NOT cheerleaders. They should be called professional entertainers. :)

BUT once again, it goes back to the belief that cheerleaders are just pretty little girls in short skirts shaking their pom pons and doing high kicks. Thanks for keeping us in the 60's and 70's Varsity!

Um. Have you ever seen the Baltimore Ravens Cheerleaders. They do more than just dance.

 

[hopskipandjump]

I'm gonna side quote from another thread myself.....




And add to it. Casual running is just running. If i say I am just running I am obviously not doing a sport. But say track and field or cross country and you know I'm referring to a sport.

Cheerleading is like casual running. It is leading a crowd. It is cheering. It's on the sidelines. It is not doing a sport. But ______________ is a sport. It has elements of cheerleading, but is a competitive nature with rules and regulations. And the name helps anyone know the distinction.

You name what we do and define it in a word untied to 'cheerleading' you have won half the battle.

As long as people can point to a picture of Dallas cowboys cheerleaders OR high school sidelines OR even a mascot and say 'thats your sport' you are gonna have problems convincing people that __________ is a sport.

So why give them the opportunity? Take away anyones argument that ________ isn't a sport because it shares the same name as Cheeleading. Does that make sense?

You are making a lot of folk's points right here on keeping part of the name "cheer" in the new word to describe competition cheer. Sideline cheerleaders (high school, college and rec) very often compete. Is what they do so different from your competition only cheerleader? They do have rules and regulations, and except for the cheer part, all elements are the same.
My vote is most definitely _______cheer or cheer________.

 

[Mclovin]

Um. Have you ever seen the Baltimore Ravens Cheerleaders. They do more than just dance.

Yes, someone pointed that out to me after I posted this. :) Needless to say, I will be checking that out once my girls get a little older. :) My oldest CP always says she wants to do cheerleading as her job. Maybe she can actually make that happen. :o)

 

[hairflip]

Ok, here is the way I see the aspect of "Changing the name" I see it the same as when a woman gets married. She changes her name to be PROPERLY recognized and receive many of the Perks that come along with it (along with tradition and MANY MANY MORE). She is still the same person.
"Competitive Cheer" as we see it now will still be the same "activity" but could receive the "perk" of being recognized as a SPORT if "Competitive Cheer" had a different name. That is my take on the "name change"

 

[King]

Ok, here is the way I see the aspect of "Changing the name" I see it the same as when a woman gets married. She changes her name to be PROPERLY recognized and receive many of the Perks that come along with it (along with tradition and MANY MANY MORE). She is still the same person.
"Competitive Cheer" as we see it now will still be the same "activity" but could receive the "perk" of being recognized as a SPORT if "Competitive Cheer" had a different name. That is my take on the "name change"

Nice analogy

 

[clueless]

If we weren't called cheerleading you COULD say cheerleading isn't a sport. That is the sideline stuff. What we do is called ________

My vote would be for...

What we do is called Allstar.

It is plain, simple and a familiar word. Even this forum is named Allstar. Look at how many posts in this thread already refer to what they do as "allstar"

It keeps the history of where it came from, as the name evolved from Allstar cheer. And eventually, the name will evolve to mean an athletic sport that combines elements of many different different sports and evolved from cheer.

 

[threeorfourx123]

i think we should all come up with a name to call "all star cheerleading" even if its something random so it will be renamed and people will think twice

 

[powerXbaby]

Well if we got rid of the name "cheerleading" we can't call it allstars because what about high school cheer? That shouldn't be allstars. And almost every sport has "allstar" teams.

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point being that we're trying to separate school cheer and allstar cheer.

Every other sport has "allstar," most call it something different, but I see no difference between school baseball and league baseball except where it is practiced. baseball is baseball, basketball is basketball, and if it's a pro sport, its called professional baseball/basketball etc...

difference being that high school cheerleading (sideline) and allstar cheerleading are completely different. can they even be called the same thing? true that SOME school teams compete, but ALL school teams sideline cheer, and I'm not sure about most schools, but at the high schools around me, you have to tryout SPECIFICALLY for competitive if you want to compete.

 

[Deleted member 15]

point being that we're trying to separate school cheer and allstar cheer.

Every other sport has "allstar," most call it something different, but I see no difference between school baseball and league baseball except where it is practiced. baseball is baseball, basketball is basketball, and if it's a pro sport, its called professional baseball/basketball etc...

difference being that high school cheerleading (sideline) and allstar cheerleading are completely different. can they even be called the same thing? true that SOME school teams compete, but ALL school teams sideline cheer, and I'm not sure about most schools, but at the high schools around me, you have to tryout SPECIFICALLY for competitive if you want to compete.

I'm talking about separating sideline cheer from competition only cheer, not just all star cheer. Competition cheer as mentioned here includes college teams like Maryland and Oregon.

 

[powerXbaby]

I'm talking about separating sideline cheer from competition only cheer, not just all star cheer. Competition cheer as mentioned here includes college teams like Maryland and Oregon.

do those teams require a separate tryout for their competition team?

 

[mdcheerdiva]

do those teams require a separate tryout for their competition team?

For Maryland they recruit their girls at clinics and camps that they hold or girls who want to be on their competitive squad can send in a skills video. They also have a walk on try out in Sept I believe to fill any remaining spots. Most girls that don't make the comp team are invited to be on the spirit squad.

 

[soFIERCE08]

i think that there are 4 different types of cheer right now
teams that only sideline
teams that sideline and the compete
teams that only compete
and then the "cheer" teams like dallas cowboys

so really, i think it should be like this
teams that only sideline are called sideline cheerleaders (thats what they are doing. leading cheers)
teams that sideline and compete are competition highschool cheer (they cheer, but they still compete)
teams that only compete are called either allstar or sport cheer (it has cheer elements-stunting,tumbling,dancing, but it has more of a sport aspect)
teams that only dance are called dancers or songleaders