- Apr 1, 2010
- 619
- 952
Ok, so I know alot of us have heard and experienced cheating in all-star cheer. We've all seen the people that we know aren't of the right age, but it's really hard to prove it. The process to report it, makes it almost impossible for the accuser to prove that person is too old. So, in a sense, by making it so hard on the accuser and burden of proof, I believe cheating, or using athletes of the wrong age in divisions is rampant at this point.
This weekend, my program Rockstar Cheer experienced this probably like no other program has ever had done to them before. 2 years ago, an athlete competed for Rockstar and I took her to worlds. To be an athlete at our gym, you must first fill out a registration form which has your birth date on it. To compete at Worlds, you must roster your team, each athlete and their birthdate. After that 2009 worlds, I never saw this girl again. I found out later that she was now a coach at another all-star program. A program that is not close to mine, is not a competitor of which I've ever competed against.
This weekend, one of my teams competed against this program, and this athlete was on the floor competing for them, against Rockstar. Well I was in the hospital all weekend, so I didn't see it. We have a pretty much new staff this year. So, the only coaches that remember this girl, happened to see her team compete on Day 2. They called me at the hospital and said, this girl is too old to compete for Senior divisions correct? I said I think so, but we'll have to do some homework before we accuse.
Well, come to find out, this girl has a sister that competes right now on one of my Rockstar teams that was at that competition!! So, one of our coaches asked her, and she said yeah, she'll be 2o next month, lol. So, my staff went to the competition owner, reported this, and they said we must have proof of it. Well, I said, we can go get her mom or dad to prove it if you want, lol. But, we decided to just wait and go get the original registration form of which she filled out. We found it and sure enough, it showed that she will be 20 next month, and in-eligible to compete on a Senior team. WE also found the Registration form we sent into Worlds 2 years ago, which also had the same Birth date.
So, now, we're waiting on the event company to make it's ruling. I'm personally & professionally appalled that a Gym Owner, used one of his own staff, who is too old, to compete on his highest level senior team, in order to secure a win for his program. Maybe that wasn't his intention, but the facts are there, that he had to know she was tool old. Any time you hire an employee, you have to get their birth date, and I'd assume he would have asked a coach if they were 18 as of Aug. 31, 2010.
So, my question is this. What should the penalty be from the event company of which the violation happened? And...What should the penalty be from the USASF, after we file our complaint. This is all based on the fact that this did happen, and they are guilty of what we're accusing.
It is to my knowledge, maybe the first time that a gym will ever file a complaint for an illegal member being used, that actually had proof as we do.
What do you think the penalties should be? Do you blame the athlete that did it, or the gym owner, or both?
This weekend, my program Rockstar Cheer experienced this probably like no other program has ever had done to them before. 2 years ago, an athlete competed for Rockstar and I took her to worlds. To be an athlete at our gym, you must first fill out a registration form which has your birth date on it. To compete at Worlds, you must roster your team, each athlete and their birthdate. After that 2009 worlds, I never saw this girl again. I found out later that she was now a coach at another all-star program. A program that is not close to mine, is not a competitor of which I've ever competed against.
This weekend, one of my teams competed against this program, and this athlete was on the floor competing for them, against Rockstar. Well I was in the hospital all weekend, so I didn't see it. We have a pretty much new staff this year. So, the only coaches that remember this girl, happened to see her team compete on Day 2. They called me at the hospital and said, this girl is too old to compete for Senior divisions correct? I said I think so, but we'll have to do some homework before we accuse.
Well, come to find out, this girl has a sister that competes right now on one of my Rockstar teams that was at that competition!! So, one of our coaches asked her, and she said yeah, she'll be 2o next month, lol. So, my staff went to the competition owner, reported this, and they said we must have proof of it. Well, I said, we can go get her mom or dad to prove it if you want, lol. But, we decided to just wait and go get the original registration form of which she filled out. We found it and sure enough, it showed that she will be 20 next month, and in-eligible to compete on a Senior team. WE also found the Registration form we sent into Worlds 2 years ago, which also had the same Birth date.
So, now, we're waiting on the event company to make it's ruling. I'm personally & professionally appalled that a Gym Owner, used one of his own staff, who is too old, to compete on his highest level senior team, in order to secure a win for his program. Maybe that wasn't his intention, but the facts are there, that he had to know she was tool old. Any time you hire an employee, you have to get their birth date, and I'd assume he would have asked a coach if they were 18 as of Aug. 31, 2010.
So, my question is this. What should the penalty be from the event company of which the violation happened? And...What should the penalty be from the USASF, after we file our complaint. This is all based on the fact that this did happen, and they are guilty of what we're accusing.
It is to my knowledge, maybe the first time that a gym will ever file a complaint for an illegal member being used, that actually had proof as we do.
What do you think the penalties should be? Do you blame the athlete that did it, or the gym owner, or both?
