All-Star Worlds 2014: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

We did not stay on property. We took two ages out athletes with us. They went over to All-Star on Sunday night to get a chance to hang out with their old friends. Even they were shocked at all the stuff going on and, trust me, they are no puritans. It appeared to be mainly athletes on teams that had not made it to finals, but there's either someone cruising through the resort selling drugs and alcohol to the athletes or they came prepared.



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Yes.

Someone asked about chaperones. The kids have chaperones.

The thing is that in the most "out of control party team" situations, the "chaperones" =

1. Aged-out kids who are trying to get their underaged drink on themselves.

2. Parents who are trying to be "that cool cheer mom" and in all honesty, are likely headed to the bar themselves and really don't care if Suzie drinks because "she's 18 and it's her senior Worlds season."

3. Super young coaches or assistant coaches who were likely JUST on the team like 2 seasons ago and don't want to look "lame" to their once teammates.

4. Older coach who is headed for bed at 10 and really doesn't care what the kids do as long as they're quiet.

 

[CEAisstronger]

If the blue v black CA / black vs blue CA jokes don't start in the next 5 comments then the entirety of the fierceboard is clearly still cruising the strugglebus.

That's what I was waiting for.


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On a similarish note, I joked with a close friend about opening a gym and using all of our close cheer friends at our school's initials. I named it "CALZAM Allstars." I referred her to the black/blue CA thread a couple hours ago, after I made a joke about another black and blue CA. She told me it was the best thing she's ever read :p


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[laughAlittle]

If the blue v black CA / black vs blue CA jokes don't start in the next 5 comments then the entirety of the fierceboard is clearly still cruising the strugglebus.

That's what I was waiting for.


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still don't understand. :confused:

***ETA : ill use the search bar.

 

[Deleted member 11199]

When you think of how many level 5 teams don't make it to Worlds (oh, ok...scratch that ;) ) But how many would love to make it out of prelims, much less advance to finals and place in the Top 10 in the World... It really makes me sad to have seen the very public and somewhat disrespectful (in some cases) displays of disappointment (for whatever top 10 placement) on various social media sites by various athletes. I get that you're disappointed, but keep it private. There are thousands who would love to be in your disappointed shoes and would happily trade places with you.

I completely agree with you! It was just disappointing to see some of their faces during awards considering they were the world champions last season.

 

[BuegeSmalls]

If the blue v black CA / black vs blue CA jokes don't start in the next 5 comments then the entirety of the fierceboard is clearly still cruising the strugglebus.

That's what I was waiting for.


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HAHAHA at first I didn't get it but then I remembered in the post it said "WC & CA" and I just assumed we all understood which CA. Totally still on the struggle bus.

So props to the CA with the 2014 World Champs for making such a smart decision.

 

[chyeeaaa69]

It is the main reason that CA no longer stays at the All Star.

Interestingly enough I saw many athletes from gyms that don't stay at allstar there drinking and partying on Monday night.
It's interesting that this happens to me. And I won't say I'm not involved, I just find it interesting that a Monday night, when more than just cheerleaders are there, there is no effort to stop everyone from partying, in and out of their rooms. In fact, there is even security walking/standing around allowing it to happen, knowing fully that most are under 21. I enjoyed myself, but it surprises me that it happens.

 

[njallday]

When you think of how many level 5 teams don't make it to Worlds (oh, ok...scratch that ;) ) But how many would love to make it out of prelims, much less advance to finals and place in the Top 10 in the World... It really makes me sad to have seen the very public and somewhat disrespectful (in some cases) displays of disappointment (for whatever top 10 placement) on various social media sites by various athletes. I get that you're disappointed, but keep it private. There are thousands who would love to be in your disappointed shoes and would happily trade places with you.

there are a few bad seeds who are actually angry if they do not win... but i think for most of the kids - yes, they're excited to be top ten but then you can't help but be disappointed when you're so close to a globe or winning. there's a fine line between "OMG i'm so excited we made day 2!" to "oh... we got 4th and could have gotten 3rd and a globe" etc. i get it. it's a tough spot to be in. not standing up for the disrespectful comments, though. those are always uncalled for.

 

[quitthedrama]

Let me clarify. The adults definitely should be doing something about it. But it appears that they are not. As a parent, you have to ask if you're willing to put your child on a team within a program that allows drugs/drinking (because if you do nothing or you have kids unsupervised, you're allowing it) just to say she's on a World's team. Not so much can a kid handle the exposure, but are you ok with it as a parent for the sake of Worlds.

This is very short sighted IMO. My 12 year old does not hang out with her older teammates outside of the gym. I know what I was doing at 18 so I am not ignorant to the fact that yes, these athletes may be having a drink or 2 when they are out with their friends. What an 18 year old does in their own time is none of my business as long as my kid isn't exposed to it and it doesn't affect practice or competition. Worlds is 3 days - so you are saying my 12 year old should have to give up her dream of being on a worlds team because there may be a couple of kids that make bad decisions on the last night of Worlds? I actually had my youngest stay off property with her father and I, and appreciated that was an option for us. She spent time at the all-star with her team, but we were able to be there and monitor what was going on and bring her back with us before things got crazy.
As far as the drinking at the all star, yes it happened. It will continue to happen as long as there are teams from the International division staying there, and since they are of legal age, it makes it a lot harder to monitor who is allowed to drink and who isn't. It is the parent's responsibility to raise their kids and the gym owner's responsibility and choice to discipline an athlete who is behaving inappropriately. Does that mean I am a bad parent because my 12 year old is on a Worlds team? You have a right to your opinion, but I am in full disagreement.

 

[Cheermom1969]

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Small Coed awards from Louisiana Cheer Forces view

Jeez I'm crying again! I LOVE how excited they are!

 

[cheerislife]

Three words... Coed Elite Finals! <3


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[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

This is very short sighted IMO. My 12 year old does not hang out with her older teammates outside of the gym. I know what I was doing at 18 so I am not ignorant to the fact that yes, these athletes may be having a drink or 2 when they are out with their friends. What an 18 year old does in their own time is none of my business as long as my kid isn't exposed to it and it doesn't affect practice or competition. Worlds is 3 days - so you are saying my 12 year old should have to give up her dream of being on a worlds team because there may be a couple of kids that make bad decisions on the last night of Worlds? I actually had my youngest stay off property with her father and I, and appreciated that was an option for us. She spent time at the all-star with her team, but we were able to be there and monitor what was going on and bring her back with us before things got crazy.
As far as the drinking at the all star, yes it happened. It will continue to happen as long as there are teams from the International division staying there, and since they are of legal age, it makes it a lot harder to monitor who is allowed to drink and who isn't. It is the parent's responsibility to raise their kids and the gym owner's responsibility and choice to discipline an athlete who is behaving inappropriately. Does that mean I am a bad parent because my 12 year old is on a Worlds team? You have a right to your opinion, but I am in full disagreement.

^^^^I didn't mean it in a "12 years old on a Worlds team = bad parenting" way.

More in a sense of "just know the program and be aware of the reputation it might have in the partying department" way.

Not everyone is ready as a parent to have those types of conversations re: drinking and partying with 6th graders. So it is a tough decision for them.

Additionally, it's important to know what you may have to do to KEEP him/her away from that scene if you decide that Worlds is important to you.

Honestly, it seems like you're doing everything I would do if I had a younger kid on a Worlds team. Not everyone's mom is thinking that way. And they become the 12-year-old rooming with the 18-year-old who is bonging a beer with her stunt group.

 

[MissCongeniality]

there are a few bad seeds who are actually angry if they do not win... but i think for most of the kids - yes, they're excited to be top ten but then you can't help but be disappointed when you're so close to a globe or winning. there's a fine line between "OMG i'm so excited we made day 2!" to "oh... we got 4th and could have gotten 3rd and a globe" etc. i get it. it's a tough spot to be in. not standing up for the disrespectful comments, though. those are always uncalled for.

I totally understand the disappointment. I know all too well how that feels. But I just think going on and on via twitter or Instagram is where I draw the line.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

^^^^I am SO glad that social media was not a thing when I was competing in high school! We lost, complained, and got over it.

 

[njallday]

I totally understand the disappointment. I know all too well how that feels. But I just think going on and on via twitter or Instagram is where I draw the line.

i thank God everyday that social media was not a thing when i was their age. they shouldn't go on and post about their disappointments, but they're already accustomed to posting every thought that crosses their mind on a minute by minute basis so i am sure a lot of them don't even think twice. and if they do post, hopefully a parent/coach sees it and uses it as a learning moment.

 

[Jennie]

Copying @MyNameIsConnorC 's question because I didn't see it answered :
Was it ever clarified why there were 11 teams in small coed finals? Was there a tie in semi finals?