All-Star Age Grids/divisions And Rules 2013-2014 Season

[CGAcheer]

Idea for you all:

What if anyone who has their hands underneath the foot is no longer considered a spot.

What do y'all think?

Did anything ever happen with the trying to get rid of the term "spotter?" In favor of just bases or people responsible for the flyer rather than a grip changing a classification and the way the rules are applied

 

[King]

Did anything ever happen with the trying to get rid of the term "spotter?" In favor of just bases or people responsible for the flyer rather than a grip changing a classification and the way the rules are applied

I don't think anything happened because it would be hard for me to imagine coaches would be happy it would be so much harder to do coed based skills.

 

[Ashley]

I think for good! Because some teams are getting credit for true coed stunts when their "spotters" are holding and assisting.

But they shouldn't be. Granted we only use the Worlds scoresheet once a year, but that one make it quite clear that a hand on the stunt is not a true coed stunt, but an assisted one.

But I'm not sure that we should limit it to hands on the feet. What about an assist standing behind a coed stunt and holding the bases arms to help stabilize? Or the flyers ankle if he's tall enough? In those cases they're really just assisting the stunt and not basing it, but should it count as such?

 

[GreenStormLucy]

We have the rule that a spot is allowed to touch the foot, the ankle, the bases arms but can't have both hands under the foot.

To me, that isn't true coed stunting. If i have a base and a flyer, and they are doing a rewind, high to high tic toc or other elite stunts it is harder than having a base, a flyer and a "spot" who can help with the catch at toes, ankle, bases wrist etc.

It shouldn't be worth the same. But that's just my view :-)

I'm sure there are many coed teams that could do great stunt sequences with real coed stunts, and they would if needed to max. difficulty.

 

[yojaehs]

I don't think it matters. If you use less "spotters" you can do more stunts. If hands are on or off the stunt is the same skill. I'm so over people whining about a spotter helping. If not then the stunts are boring. Look at the major college coed teams. Every single one of them have hands helping. What's the big deal? I feel by focusing so much in the help of the spotter is just ridiculous and over hyped. All it does is limit crearivity.


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[Kelli Nicole]

We have the rule that a spot is allowed to touch the foot, the ankle, the bases arms but can't have both hands under the foot.

To me, that isn't true coed stunting. If i have a base and a flyer, and they are doing a rewind, high to high tic toc or other elite stunts it is harder than having a base, a flyer and a "spot" who can help with the catch at toes, ankle, bases wrist etc.

It shouldn't be worth the same. But that's just my view :)

I'm sure there are many coed teams that could do great stunt sequences with real coed stunts, and they would if needed to max. difficulty.

Rule is the same at USASF. Spotter can touch wrists or arms of the base, the flyer's ankle or legs or just doesn't touch the stunt at all. Spotter can't have both hands under the sole of the flyer's foot or under the bases' hands. One hand is allowed as long as the other hand is on the back wrist or the flyer's ankle.

I definitely agree that there should be an exception for coed here...that a spotter is not allowed a hand under the stunt or even on the bases wrists to get the points for one man coed stunting. Touching the arms (to held stabilize if the stunt didn't catch right or something) can be allowed but shouldn't be permitted throughout the sequence for the extra points.

 

[cheerheart4life]

But they shouldn't be. Granted we only use the Worlds scoresheet once a year, but that one make it quite clear that a hand on the stunt is not a true coed stunt, but an assisted one.

But I'm not sure that we should limit it to hands on the feet. What about an assist standing behind a coed stunt and holding the bases arms to help stabilize? Or the flyers ankle if he's tall enough? In those cases they're really just assisting the stunt and not basing it, but should it count as such?

I personally think that any spotter touching the flyer at all is considering assisting the stunt.

It's assisting really too when they help by touching the bases arms.

 

[CoachKelly]

So its Friday afternoon here in PA, when are they going to post the new age grid and rules?

 

[CheerMom69]

So its Friday afternoon here in PA, when are they going to post the new age grid and rules?

I had the exact same question.... Seriously....

 

[f5forever]

To me a "spotter" literally does just that, spots a stunt...not help base it in any way. If someone (besides the actual base) has even just one hand on the flyer's ankle, base's hand/wrist/arm they are helping to support the flyer; aka being a BASE, not a SPOTTER.
Look at the spotters that are provided by EPs at some competitions. They stand on the floor and are there for SAFETY only. That's the point of a spotter, not to base or help with the stunt.
And there are MANY college teams that only have spotters there because they are REQUIRED and they do not acutally touch the stunt at all unless it is about to fall.

 

[Jennie]

They are here!
2013-14 | USASF Rules Site

 

[Ashley]

They're officially recognizing Open 4! And bringing IO5 back to 14+

Exhibition Performances
Teams that perform in “exhibition” or “evaluation only” at an event must adhere to the USASF Age Grid and Level Rules as would any
other team. “Exhibition” or “evaluation only” status does not allow a team to violate the safety rules or age restrictions that have been
put in place for all athletes. Any exception to this rule must be obtained in writing from the USASF.

Oh hey, the rule that should be henceforth called the "CEA Rule"

And apparently level 6 has no more rules ;)

 

[ssccxnce]

anybody else see "In Level 3 it is now legal to due backward suspended rolls with extended arms"... I'm going to assume that they meant "do" considering I have never seen due used in such context

 

[Jennie]

And apparently level 6 has no more rules ;)

I believe they have scored out the L6 rules as they are being posted at a later date to coincide with the college cheer rules.

 

[Momof1now]

"*For all International Divisions (5 and 6), the eligible age for the athletes will be determined by the “calendar year of the competition” (Dec. 31 of the same year that the competition occurs) for its age cutoff date.
Example: An athlete that is 13 but turns 14, within the same calendar year (on or before Dec 31) of the event, is eligible to compete in that event on an International Open 5 (all girl or co-ed)."

Can someone clarify? If a competitor's 14th birthday is in January 2014, they would NOT be able to compete on an I5 team in December 2013, correct?