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[ScottyB]

And when looking at this most recent story, the fall happened for pro cheerleaders at a NBA game. Since there are only 3-4 stunt squads in the whole NBA there are zero rules and restrictions... Which is why they were attempting a 2-2-1 on a hard floor. Even though that skill wasn't what caused the fall, it just shows that rules can be helpful to avoid further situations and bad press for cheer

 

[CoachMandiCF]

When you say, "But we knew it could come with consequences", where were those possible consequences coming from? Coaches? Team members? Parents? Who monitors what is now considered illegal in football/basketball cheer?

In AllStar you get deductions, so there are obvious reasons as to why you would not want to do something illegal. On the college sidelines, I don't see how stating it is "illegal" would prevent it from happening.

When I was in my senior year of college (2004) they had just made it illegal to do those types of tosses on basketball courts. It went into effect just as we were preparing for nationals and our coach made us aware of the consequences if we were caught. But in the same breath we were told to still throw the tosses. I went to a high profile D-1 basketball school so if there were TV crews there, she wouldn't have us do them in case they were taped. But I also think that we were very well trained - we didn't throw stunts or tosses that we hadn't practice over and over and we had all appropriate spotters in place in case something happened.

The most recent injuries I've heard of in college cheerleading on basketball courts have come from lack of spotting. I think that overall is the bigger issue. The teams aren't going to stop just because they're told it's illegal. It'll take someone turning them in.

 

[King]

And when looking at this most recent story, the fall happened for pro cheerleaders at a NBA game. Since there are only 3-4 stunt squads in the whole NBA there are zero rules and restrictions... Which is why they were attempting a 2-2-1 on a hard floor. Even though that skill wasn't what caused the fall, it just shows that rules can be helpful to avoid further situations and bad press for cheer

I think the problem is that the skill the cheerleader fell on is very legal in college on hard floor, so this easily could have happened. Lots of people underestimate how difficult a toss shoulders is.

Andre can confirm but I once heard the only required skill at UK was a toss shoulders and the rest came down to who was the best.

 

[King]

I would like to add the other shoulder stand was already up. So he had probably already dropped it before.

 

[CoachMandiCF]

Here is an article on ABC News.

NBA Cheerleader Breaks Rib, Vertebrae After Head Fall - ABC News

 

[luxerae]

I saw the video of the cheerleader falling on my Local News Aswell. I told my mom not to watch. She hates when people fall. It scares her to death.

She's not alone. This thread in general is scaring the crap out of me.

 

[brandon0309]

 

[Deleted member 15]

Andre can confirm but I once heard the only required skill at UK was a toss shoulders and the rest came down to who was the best.

Last time I judged I think it was a toss shoulder stand and a stretch. That was around 2008, maybe 2009, and I don't think the listed requirements have changed.

 

[Ashley]

When I was in my senior year of college (2004) they had just made it illegal to do those types of tosses on basketball courts. It went into effect just as we were preparing for nationals and our coach made us aware of the consequences if we were caught. But in the same breath we were told to still throw the tosses. I went to a high profile D-1 basketball school so if there were TV crews there, she wouldn't have us do them in case they were taped. But I also think that we were very well trained - we didn't throw stunts or tosses that we hadn't practice over and over and we had all appropriate spotters in place in case something happened.

The most recent injuries I've heard of in college cheerleading on basketball courts have come from lack of spotting. I think that overall is the bigger issue. The teams aren't going to stop just because they're told it's illegal. It'll take someone turning them in.

Waitttt a minute. I was in college when they made those things illegal - I think it was 2006 or so, after that girl fell off of a pyramid and was doing the fight song while being carried away on a stretcher.

But yes, the only time we strictly followed those rules were during TV games. We toned down what we did, but we still did tuck tosses. It was unfortunate since timeouts were a good opportunity to perform skills from your nationals routine.

They did state that you could do them if you rolled out a mat, but that's not practical, or even possibly allowed, during a 60 second time out.

 

[CoachMandiCF]

Waitttt a minute. I was in college when they made those things illegal - I think it was 2006 or so, after that girl fell off of a pyramid and was doing the fight song while being carried away on a stretcher.

But yes, the only time we strictly followed those rules were during TV games. We toned down what we did, but we still did tuck tosses. It was unfortunate since timeouts were a good opportunity to perform skills from your nationals routine.

They did state that you could do them if you rolled out a mat, but that's not practical, or even possibly allowed, during a 60 second time out.

I remember after I graduated the incident at SIU happened with the girl falling off the pyramid and getting really hurt. Then they started banning things left and right.

But you're right - there is no way, especially during a media time-out that you can roll out mats. So you either stick to just simple crowd appeal or you put stuff up and spot the heck out of it :)

 

[BuegeSmalls]

I knew I didn't like shoulder stands.

 

[worldchampME]

Peter Lezin is the owner and head coach and Alyssa white is on black. Plus this is just the article. It was on tv so a video should post sometime

I know who he is and who she is, I coached her before she left and went to brandon. but just didn't see them i'm prolly blind...

 

[yojaehs]

Try this one worldchampME

 

[worldchampME]

Try this one worldchampME

YES...seeing is believing :)

 

[King]

UF is now grounded because of this.