All-Star Can't We Support Another Gym?

[Lazydaisytoo]

Not really related to the convo but I'm trying to tell from the uniforms in your avatar - are you from SKKY? I saw a couple of your teams (one happened to be your J4) and they were very good! I had never seen you guys before and was very impressed :)

Yep, my daughter is on Skky J4 and S4. We're a relatively new gym, I think in the 3rd or 4th year? This is my daughter's 2nd year, but she'd done rec comp before that.

 

[mybabywantstotumble]

I always go into the VIP area to support teams from our gyms other location and to see friends children from other gyms however I always stand near the back so the parents can get up front.

 

[Ashley]

I got complained at earlier this season by a security guard.
The priority area was far from packed and I was supporting one of my former kids. I dont care what gym one of Mama's babies competes with, I'm gonna be right there in VIP screaming for them.
So thats what I conveyed to "the man." And I kept my spot.

I was in the priority area last year at worlds for a certain Aussie Cat! I'm glad no one gave me a hard time - but since they weren't from the US, it's not like they had a ton of fans there. Oh and also one of the Coed 6 teams from New England that we regularly compete against. We're local rivals, but I like to see them do well at worlds.

I don't think it should be an issue if you're walking into priority with the families. If you're camping out in priority, then yeah, that's annoying, and it's especially annoying if you're a few teams before a major program and their fans (fans, probably not family) are trying to claim spots in the priority section in advance.

 

[juscheerthatisall]

I agree with all of this, however I do think the "security" is a little too anal about this at times. I shouldn't have to keep changing my shirt just to be supportive. I saw a group of moms almost attack a staff member because he wouldn't let a parent into rotational viewing even though they told him several times her daughter was on the team. She was a coach of and had a daughter in one program (whose shirt she was wearing) and her oldest daughter was on a lvl 5 team at a different program. Not until he tired of being yelled at and gave in was she allowed to go view her child. This was the same ep listed several times in this thread. I believe people should have to rotate in and out, that should be strictly enforced, but not whether to let them in at all.

I completely understand that parents want to be upfront for their kids, but I also know some of these kids have waited all year to see senior elite or top gun etc in person and if the only thing I can do to make an 11 year old happy is let them stand beside me in priority seating then what's the big deal. I literally saw a child cry tears because she didn't make it in the arena in time to watch Kiara Nowlin at nca. I almost cried with her lol

Wanted to add (sorta off topic) that I was almost trampled at battle of the capital! When they called f5 on the stage kids started running out the hallways, from the other arena, from their rooms idk but there were literally hundreds of kids running into the arena. Makes sense now since someone said the schedule wasn't posted.

 

[CheerBank]

I agree with all of this, however I do think the "security" is a little too anal about this at times. I shouldn't have to keep changing my shirt just to be supportive. I saw a group of moms almost attack a staff member because he wouldn't let a parent into rotational viewing even though they told him several times her daughter was on the team. She was a coach of and had a daughter in one program (whose shirt she was wearing) and her oldest daughter was on a lvl 5 team at a different program. Not until he tired of being yelled at and gave in was she allowed to go view her child. This was the same ep listed several times in this thread. I believe people should have to rotate in and out, that should be strictly enforced, but not whether to let them in at all.

I completely understand that parents want to be upfront for their kids, but I also know some of these kids have waited all year to see senior elite or top gun etc in person and if the only thing I can do to make an 11 year old happy is let them stand beside me in priority seating then what's the big deal. I literally saw a child cry tears because she didn't make it in the arena in time to watch Kiara Nowlin at nca. I almost cried with her lol

Wanted to add (sorta off topic) that I was almost trampled at battle of the capital! When they called f5 on the stage kids started running out the hallways, from the other arena, from their rooms idk but there were literally hundreds of kids running into the arena. Makes sense now since someone said the schedule wasn't posted.

The problem is there is a sense of entitlement from some fans about getting into that priority area to see a big name team regardless of who they are pushing out of the way or getting in front of, and it is not just kids but adults as well. If it was just one 11 year old kid, it would not be a big deal.
I was not at BATC this year, but last year it was the same mayhem when Senior and Coed Elite hit the mat. People were running in from all directions to watch them. Cp and I sat and watched from the bleachers in amazement.

 

[juscheerthatisall]

I just thought about this what if the VIP area ran on a ticketed system for major nationals. So each spectator would get a free VIP ticket with admission and then you could purchase additional. Each ticket allowed you in the VIP area once. Someone would stand at VIP entrance and you would have to drop your ticket to enter. So parents could use the free ticket for their childs team and little Susie who never gets to see smoed since she's from the west coast can pay an extra fee for a close up view.

There is the issue of space however I doubt many parents would pay extra when they already paid to get in and can watch from the audience for free.
This would limit ppl piling into VIP since they would now need a ticket.
And this would allow little Susie to get up front without being turned away by security.

Thoughts?

 

[cheernerd5678]

I just thought about this what if the VIP area ran on a ticketed system for major nationals. So each spectator would get a free VIP ticket with admission and then you could purchase additional. Each ticket allowed you in the VIP area once. Someone would stand at VIP entrance and you would have to drop your ticket to enter. So parents could use the free ticket for their childs team and little Susie who never gets to see smoed since she's from the west coast can pay an extra fee for a close up view.

There is the issue of space however I doubt many parents would pay extra when they already paid to get in and can watch from the audience for free.
This would limit ppl piling into VIP since they would now need a ticket.
And this would allow little Susie to get up front without being turned away by security.

Thoughts?

The same crazy young girls who have talked their mom into buying signed/scented bows will probably be able to talk their moms into buying them a ticket, and then parents wouldn't be able to see their kids. Some of these cheer moms will buy anything for their CP.
Additionally if you have multiple kids cheering and potentially crossing over, you're having to pay extra just to watch your own kids. Like 12stepcheermom (using you bc I don't know who else has crossovers) has 2 kids and 3 teams, plus her husband. So they'd have to buy 4 extra tickets (plus if warmups and performances didn't overlap, more for their cps). That seems like a little much, but it's a good thought!


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[Emily]

I just thought about this what if the VIP area ran on a ticketed system for major nationals. So each spectator would get a free VIP ticket with admission and then you could purchase additional. Each ticket allowed you in the VIP area once. Someone would stand at VIP entrance and you would have to drop your ticket to enter. So parents could use the free ticket for their childs team and little Susie who never gets to see smoed since she's from the west coast can pay an extra fee for a close up view.

There is the issue of space however I doubt many parents would pay extra when they already paid to get in and can watch from the audience for free.
This would limit ppl piling into VIP since they would now need a ticket.
And this would allow little Susie to get up front without being turned away by security.

Thoughts?

There would definitely be a problem with parents who have more than one kid competing.

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[TheDivineCheerYaYaSecret]

I just thought about this what if the VIP area ran on a ticketed system for major nationals. So each spectator would get a free VIP ticket with admission and then you could purchase additional. Each ticket allowed you in the VIP area once. Someone would stand at VIP entrance and you would have to drop your ticket to enter. So parents could use the free ticket for their childs team and little Susie who never gets to see smoed since she's from the west coast can pay an extra fee for a close up view.

There is the issue of space however I doubt many parents would pay extra when they already paid to get in and can watch from the audience for free.
This would limit ppl piling into VIP since they would now need a ticket.
And this would allow little Susie to get up front without being turned away by security.

Thoughts?

What about those of us that are required to watch other teams in our gym? I mean, I want to go watch them anyway to support our team but we are expected to watch other teams. If I had only one ticket what then?

 

[level5diva]

I just thought about this what if the VIP area ran on a ticketed system for major nationals. So each spectator would get a free VIP ticket with admission and then you could purchase additional. Each ticket allowed you in the VIP area once. Someone would stand at VIP entrance and you would have to drop your ticket to enter. So parents could use the free ticket for their childs team and little Susie who never gets to see smoed since she's from the west coast can pay an extra fee for a close up view.

There is the issue of space however I doubt many parents would pay extra when they already paid to get in and can watch from the audience for free.
This would limit ppl piling into VIP since they would now need a ticket.
And this would allow little Susie to get up front without being turned away by security.

Thoughts?

Most competitions run slow enough as it is, I can't imagine the wait that would accompany processing a ticket line in between every team :confused:

 

[cheermomforever]

I just thought about this what if the VIP area ran on a ticketed system for major nationals. So each spectator would get a free VIP ticket with admission and then you could purchase additional. Each ticket allowed you in the VIP area once. Someone would stand at VIP entrance and you would have to drop your ticket to enter. So parents could use the free ticket for their childs team and little Susie who never gets to see smoed since she's from the west coast can pay an extra fee for a close up view.

There is the issue of space however I doubt many parents would pay extra when they already paid to get in and can watch from the audience for free.
This would limit ppl piling into VIP since they would now need a ticket.
And this would allow little Susie to get up front without being turned away by security.

Thoughts?

My daughter crosses over and coaches 2 teams, so I would not b happy to pay xtra $ 3 times. I don't think that would work.


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[tumbleyoda]

Not in favor of anything that makes parents have to shell out even more money to see their kids at competition.

On the CheerSport issues - it was so bad the first time I ever went to that event that I about got run over by people running to see Top Gun, World Cup, etc. Scarred me for life. I will never ever try to get close to see them again, even though I had a former athlete that eventually went on to cheer for Top Gun. I will just watch them on You Tube, go backstage and watch them from the side, or do like I do at Worlds sit all the way up at the top and watch from the rafters. #shortpeopleproblems

 

[mamabear]

My daughter crosses over and coaches 2 teams, so I would not b happy to pay xtra $ 3 times. I don't think that would work.


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Maybe then one ticket given out to each competitor? That way if you have multiple kids competing , they each would get a golden tix to distribute?

I don;t like the idea of any of ttickets. It will slow down the event and cause problems with security- but something will need to be done if people crash the vip all the time

 

[cheermuse]

What happens when as a parents you have paid $$$ for comp fee and then tack on $25-$40 for spectator fee then to have to wait in line while the priority area EP staff members collects a ticket from each person in line for priority and you have now missed your kids performance or had to watch from the back of the line. I cannot see an EP holding up teams performances to allow this.

EP need to hire big beefy, bouncer, WWE type staff members to work priority area:D

 

[amy1k]

We have a local comp where there is a guy hardcore monitoring the viewing area. Sometimes it seems excessive, but, as a parent, it's worth it for me. At a different comp recently, there was an entire large mini team (and their adults. Parents? Coaches?) from a competing gym taking prime viewing space while our mini team was performing. Were they their to support the competition? Maybe. But it was crowded and awkward.


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