All-Star Champions League Teams

[yojaehs]

If a parent can save $100 and the teams get to face a lot of quality teams it's a win!

No offense to the West Coast but the quality is spread out. That's like hey let's drive from ATL to Orlando vs Phoenix to Seattle.


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[King]

This is all happening early enough, that gyms attending could remove a comp from the schedule to fit this one in. So, the financial impact of this on the parents, hypothetically, may not be any more than they would be paying anyway.

For coaches and gyms its an economy of scale for travel. The more teams you have traveling to a place the better rates you can negotiate and the more you can distribute the cost of the staff over many teams.

And this does not have enough teams to be a bid event, so a gym has to decide if they want one less bid event for this competition. Unless there are a lot of gyms that travel to non-bid events. Rays goes to Chattanooga every year and that is a very low cost non-bid event (Chat is an hour and a half drive and some people don't even get hotels). I don't see as many gyms over extending themselves as much.

Because of bids the smaller niche events have seemed to flourish and the larger bid events have gotten huge. I would say the middle size events have died out a good bit.

 

[King]

The West Coast loses out because 80% of cheer is east of the Mississippi river outside of Texas

 

[BamaCheerGuy]

So if there are just 24 teams competing multiple times what is the business side of it?

That isn't a very large competition.

PPV, ticket sales but if done correctly what about sponsorships? Theoretically if done correctly, you could charge very minimal on comp fee. Market this baby. If you build it they will come! Lol


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[NEliteSteven]

But Philadelphia? What a random place. It's not a major airline hub and flights aren't exactly cheap unless you're in the general vicinity.

 

[The Sixth]

For coaches and gyms its an economy of scale for travel. The more teams you have traveling to a place the better rates you can negotiate and the more you can distribute the cost of the staff over many teams.

And this does not have enough teams to be a bid event, so a gym has to decide if they want one less bid event for this competition. Unless there are a lot of gyms that travel to non-bid events. Rays goes to Chattanooga every year and that is a very low cost non-bid event (Chat is an hour and a half drive and some people don't even get hotels). I don't see as many gyms over extending themselves as much.

Because of bids the smaller niche events have seemed to flourish and the larger bid events have gotten huge. I would say the middle size events have died out a good bit.

Would The Majors be considered a smaller niche competition in your eyes? That was going to be the first example that came to mind when mentioning gyms attending a non-bid even pretty much of no other reason than the sake of competing. Granted, there was an actual prize the 1st year. But even after being a massive failure for CA, they still went back the 2nd year with no prize. I'll be interested in who accepts invites this year. No disrespect to Cali or CA, but I don't think a tie last year was good for business either.

I cannot comment on whether they were able to defer costs by other teams attending Jamfest though.

 

[DJ]

But Philadelphia? What a random place. It's not a major airline hub and flights aren't exactly cheap unless you're in the general vicinity.

I think marketability, had much to do with this location - if you think about the caliber of teams that are attending, and then look at the total population of the cheer industry alone within a 5 hour drive of Philadelphia - I'm not too sure many cities elsewhere would compare in terms of the potential. Throw in that teams, gyms, parents, fans etc. in that region don't get to see these teams without traveling to Dallas, TX (also expensive to fly to) or Worlds (expensive in general) - I think that it has potential to be a great success in terms of cheer, and fan marketability.

EDITED TO ADD: I also believe that US Airways is the main supplier for PHL Airport.

 

[JayySoFierce]

You know what else is in Philly? That market from National Treasure where Abigail jumps behind the meat counter to hide from that evil guy. There's a ton of food stands at that market but I had the best crepes ever there. So if you go you should definitely check it out.

YOU BEAT ME TO IT! There really is TONS to do in Philly. You just have to know where to go (aka as far away from Temples campus as possible) & You also must go to Pats or Genos for a genuine real philly cheesesteak.

 

[NJ Coach]

YOU BEAT ME TO IT! There really is TONS to do in Philly. You just have to know where to go (aka as far away from Temples campus as possible) & You also must go to Pats or Genos for a genuine real philly cheesesteak.

The good news is, the convention center is on the opposite end of Broad St from Temple. The market is literally next door to the convention center, so that's very convenient.

 

[JayySoFierce]

But Philadelphia? What a random place. It's not a major airline hub and flights aren't exactly cheap unless you're in the general vicinity.

Not picking a fight in anyway - The PHL airport in no longer than a 10 minute drive to get directly into Center City. The Philadelphia convention center is also huge. Parents, there's a Harrahs casino about 15 minutes down 95south in Chester and might actually be a Parx casino in Philadelphia (I wouldn't know, I'm only 20) I might just come up with a "things to do" list to help families out.

 

[specialtpass]

Southwest is also a big carrier out of Philadelphia. It's also usually less expensive to fly in and out of the Philly airport in general when compared to say Newark, NJ.

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[BamaCheerGuy]

Actually I am taking my daughter to this as a gift. It's $218 round trip from Orlando!


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[NEliteSteven]

Not picking a fight in anyway - The PHL airport in no longer than a 10 minute drive to get directly into Center City. The Philadelphia convention center is also huge. Parents, there's a Harrahs casino about 15 minutes downtown and might actually be a Parx casino in Philadelphia (I wouldn't know, I'm only 20) I might just come up with a "things to do" list to help families out.

@jayysofierce @DJ

Nothing against Philly at all. I'm sure it's a fun time, and a great city. I am just thinking as someone that would consider commuting as a spectator. I can't imagine it being cheap from anyone outside of the NE. I know I live in MN and that's not exactly ideal for ANYONE, but for me to get there would be $490 with 2 layovers as of right now. I'm sure it's similar for most people outside of that bubble (teams from CA, TX, WI).

 

[The Sixth]

So if there are just 24 teams competing multiple times what is the business side of it?

That isn't a very large competition.

I don't think there is a sporting event that exists that wouldn't be better if you could remove the business (read profitability) side out of it.

Stepping out of reality for a moment, I always imagine some billionaire who's daughter grows up and loves cheer. Naturally being a dad and also filthy rich, he funds a competition or whole industry itself, that is zero cost to participants all in the name of competition.

Stepping back into the real world, with enough backing, it's plausible that a competition such as this would be willing to eat money for a few years, if they thought it could be self sustainable. Even more so if their goal is similar to above, where they'd truly like to get the best teams together in the name of competition.

 

[BamaCheerGuy]

I don't think there is a sporting event that exists that wouldn't be better if you could remove the business (read profitability) side out of it.

Stepping out of reality for a moment, I always imagine some billionaire who's daughter grows up and loves cheer. Naturally being a dad and also filthy rich, he funds a competition or whole industry itself, that is zero cost to participants all in the name of competition.

Stepping back into the real world, with enough backing, it's plausible that a competition such as this would be willing to eat money for a few years, if they thought it could be self sustainable. Even more so if their goal is similar to above, where they'd truly like to get the best teams together in the name of competition.

Since we are speculating, which I love your analogy, lets assume that this "dad" is several interested parties and they are willing to spend now to make a statement. In any big business as well as politics, you spend up front for a bigger revenue in the end. The All Star world has major potential for big profits if done correctly. Right now we really can't market it. However we could!


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