All-Star Cheer Pet Peeves

[Cheeranswers]

no, I meant to reply to that one.


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no, @Mattison's Mom qouted me initially but didnt mean to

 

[TheDivineCheerYaYaSecret]

no, I meant to reply to that one.


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Oh no, sorry!! I wasn't trying to reply to your post. I was trying to reply to another one and when I did it quoted the wrong post so I just edited it. Again, really sorry!!!!

 

[TheDivineCheerYaYaSecret]

no, @Mattison's Mom qouted me initially but didnt mean to

Sorry guys!!!! Still pretty new!!!

 

[Cheeranswers]

Sorry guys!!!! Still pretty new!!!

haha no worries :)

 

[alexacheer2010]

haha no worries :)

and here I thought I was getting yelled at. lol.


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[cupieqt]

This drives me crazy too!! Last year cp made our sr5 team. There were 3 rookies on the team and 17 veterans. All 3 rookies were put in the same stunt group with a veteran who had flown mostly so was somewhat new to basing. I will admit that cp was the smallest flyer, but I just could not understand why they put all the rookies together. It all worked out eventually but that group had to work so much harder and they put in a lot of extra stunt group practice so they wouldn't be the weak group. I was so proud of those girls but really think mixing them up a little with the veterans would have worked for everyone.


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I think this drives a lot of people crazy until they hear the reasoning behind it :)
You can either have 3 out of 4 groups hitting or you can have all 4 groups falling. It's better to have 3 groups hitting and to work the weaker group (that WILL catch up with the extra time and effort) than to have all groups struggling while the rookies learn.
Seeing at least some of the team having success is good for the sanity of everyone. And it gives a visual, tangible goal for those learning the ropes.




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[CheerBank]

I think this drives a lot of people crazy until they hear the reasoning behind it :)
You can either have 3 out of 4 groups hitting or you can have all 4 groups falling. It's better to have 3 groups hitting and to work the weaker group (that WILL catch up with the extra time and effort) than to have all groups struggling while the rookies learn.
Seeing at least some of the team having success is good for the sanity of everyone. And it gives a visual, tangible goal for those learning the ropes.




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I always appreciate seeing a coach's perspective about things like this.

 

[yesucan]

The sanity of everyone except the group that is struggling... (and their parents on the rides home lol) ;)

But at the end of the day, life lessons are learned, kids get tougher, and well, it's just another day cheerleading!

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[cupieqt]

The sanity of everyone except the group that is struggling... (and their parents on the rides home lol) ;)

But at the end of the day, life lessons are learned, kids get tougher, and well, it's just another day cheerleading!

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Well technically it should still save their sanity too. I've actually seen what having 4 struggling stunt groups does to a team: the coach gets crazy, the athletes get frustrated with each other and morale just nose dives into the pits. No one can hit anything so everyone is unhappy. Instead of having a calm, happy coach and encouragement from their experienced teammates (that have been there too) while they work through the struggle of learning as rookies, they get blamed by their more experienced stunt-mates for being the weak links and then everyone leaves practice pissed off. And progress is handicapped because the whole team is starting at the bottom instead of standing on each others shoulders to reach the top.

In the long run it is much better for everyone, including the kids riding the struggle bus simply because their team is stronger and healthier and more positive overall. They are definitely learning life lessons throughout all of it :)



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[yesucan]

I think there is two sides to this with both being equally valid. I have coached cheer from youth rec all the way through all star and have found that athletes tend to learn faster and with much less frustration when learning in an experienced group, who have already learned and can pass on "tricks of the trade" which results in the team moving forward faster as a whole. As a mom in all this, with an athlete being placed in the new group, I can promise you that the frustration is not an easy emotion to soothe. But like I said, life experience! :-) she will survive and will gain the ability to fly on strong and rookie groups. Win win.

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[cupieqt]

I think there is two sides to this with both being equally valid. I have coached cheer from youth rec all the way through all star and have found that athletes tend to learn faster and with much less frustration when learning in an experienced group, who have already learned and can pass on "tricks of the trade" which results in the team moving forward faster as a whole. As a mom in all this, with an athlete being placed in the new group, I can promise you that the frustration is not an easy emotion to soothe. But like I said, life experience! :-) she will survive and will gain the ability to fly on strong and rookie groups. Win win.

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Haha yep. As a mom and coach I can vouch for that. I always try to understand why other coaches use the strategies they use. It's not always easy to take the time to explain why we do this or that.

Hate to hijack this thread any further so I'll post a pet peeve and get it back on track:

When stunt groups just give up on a shaky stunt. Fight for that sucker like your life depends on it! It's such a good feeling when you know you gave it everything you had even if you couldn't save it anyway.


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[Jettplane_JB]

Haha yep. As a mom and coach I can vouch for that. I always try to understand why other coaches use the strategies they use. It's not always easy to take the time to explain why we do this or that.

Hate to hijack this thread any further so I'll post a pet peeve and get it back on track:

When stunt groups just give up on a shaky stunt. Fight for that sucker like your life depends on it! It's such a good feeling when you know you gave it everything you had even if you couldn't save it anyway.


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Yessss ma'am I loves me a good stunt save / fight!! I lose it in the viewing area when I see a stunt going down and the group pulls it out of nowhere and saves it! Just imagine a 5'3 male jumping all over the place praising the heck out of his team!!! Yea that's me in and out of the gym! Lol


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[SparkleSpankies]

I think this drives a lot of people crazy until they hear the reasoning behind it :)
You can either have 3 out of 4 groups hitting or you can have all 4 groups falling. It's better to have 3 groups hitting and to work the weaker group (that WILL catch up with the extra time and effort) than to have all groups struggling while the rookies learn.
Seeing at least some of the team having success is good for the sanity of everyone. And it gives a visual, tangible goal for those learning the ropes.




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I agree... however, sometimes the 4th group not hitting needs a major change... :-)

 

[cupieqt]

I agree... however, sometimes the 4th group not hitting needs a major change... :-)

Well yeah. And that's entirely up to the coaches discretion on how long and how hard they struggle. Obvs no one would let a group just flail around hopelessly (I hope).


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[emax13]

What is something that happens in the cheer world that annoys you?

Me: When someone says: "F5 is my favorite gym!" Or "Cheer Athletics is my favorite team!" Like no... F5 is a team not a gym and CA is a gym, not a team.

Has anyone listed outsiders and critics trying to dictate what cheerleaders should look like and dress like and what moves are appropriate instead of letting the athletes be mature enough to handle these decisions themselves?

I wonder because competitive cheer is one activity where everyone, and I mean everyone, is a critic.