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Minor errors aren't a problem- I double-check everything before posting but I'm sure I miss a comma or two myself. This is a compound problem- people posting difficult to read/get through posts while also stating opinions/incorrect info as facts. So you end up having to take the extra time to triple-verify what each poster is saying so YOU'RE not then incorrectly addressing an issue/comment.

When everyone wants to 'post and go' or catch up on a long thread, it can be tiresome to have to read through a post multiple times, to be frank. There are certain posts I just skim because I don't want to have to take the time to invest a thorough read (when it's up to a paragraph or more). I'm usually checking fierceboard in the morning before I go do acting work or at night after server work.
 
Fierceboard Grammar Elitists? They are not the main problem on this site.

To be honest, I am more worried about the about the tumbling and team level elitists. You know, the ones who like to dictate that other kids should be "moved to rec" or find another sport if they don't move up according to their timeline? The ones who are so busy bragging about their child's success that they are willing to dismiss the hard work that others put into the sport too. My mind is still blown at the audacity that someone would come on this site and judge other kids' progression. I know that her posts come under fire nearly everyday. Imo, her grammar mistakes wouldn't be as noticeable, if the poster's history did not warrant scrutiny of her posts, due to previous lies, embellishments, and provocative arguments.
 
This will be the last comment I make on this. I tried to leave it alone, but obviously my post rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

I will apologize for the unintelligent comment - because that's not even really true. My dad is one of the smartest people I know, and he can't spell his way out of a paper bag. I don't think all people with bad grammar are unintelligent - only the people who have bad grammar AND no point. But it was still rude, and I apologize for saying it.

If you are a teacher, I think you should have good grammar. Period. I'm sorry that bothers people, but it's how I feel. And yes, even if you're not teaching English, I still feel that way. Grammar, sentence structure, spelling, all of it make up how we convey our thoughts to others. If you are a teacher, you need to be able to do that - and I don't agree that it's ok to say "But I'm teaching math!" because your students still see your writing. You are showing them that it's not important, when in fact it is. So, I'm standing my ground on the teacher thing - but truthfully, I blame the school system that hires the teacher, more than the teacher. I know being a teacher is a thankless, difficult job, but I still hold them to higher standards than most.

As for social media: first off, I'm not here to help someone with their grammar. Quite frankly, if I corrected it nicely, the reaction would have been the same - that grammar is insignificant and doesn't matter. It still would have been seen as elitist.

I never understand why people say they only have bad grammar on social media - you either know how to put a sentence together, or you don't. It's not as though social media suddenly makes you forget how to write. So, I highly doubt someone who writes on here in complete run-on, not-punctuated-correctly, misspelled, verb disagreement everywhere, improper-word-usage filled sentences suddenly goes to work and is doing Pullitzer prize winning writing.

Maybe some of you are better decipherers than I am, but I most certainly do come across posts that I have no earthly idea what they are trying to say. No, I'm not going to read your post 3 times to figure it out. If it's gibberish, I'm moving on. And if it gets to where the majority of your posts are like that, I'll just skip over them automatically. So, rather than saying I think someone is unintelligent, I'll reword to "I assume you have no point because I cannot understand what you are saying."

Lastly, when I finally crack and say something, it is always to someone who is being argumentative for no reason other than to be argumentative. I see all kinds of awful grammar on here and every other social media site that I never comment on, or really even care about. It's when it is so repetitive, and from someone who is being overbearing and "know it all-ish" that I finally give up and say, "Since you already know everything about everything, can you work on knowing grammar?"

I'm sorry y'all think I'm so elitist and mean, but really... I hesitated to open these floodgates, but here goes. It's obvious (to me at least, and probably a handful of others) that the ruffled feathers here have NOTHING to do with the grammar conversation, and everything to do with previous feelings. It's very clear that the "lines in the sand" were drawn weeks ago, and those that took sides are sticking to them. (the "sides" are easy to figure out, based on who shimmies who in every single thread - and that applies to both sides.)
 
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This will be the last comment I make on this. I tried to leave it alone, but obviously my post rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

I will apologize for the unintelligent comment - because that's not even really true. My dad is one of the smartest people I know, and he can't spell his way out of a paper bag. I don't think all people with bad grammar are unintelligent - only the people who have bad grammar AND no point. But it was still rude, and I apologize for saying it.

If you are a teacher, I think you should have good grammar. Period. I'm sorry that bothers people, but it's how I feel. And yes, even if you're not teaching English, I still feel that way. Grammar, sentence structure, spelling, all of it make up how we convey our thoughts to others. If you are a teacher, you need to be able to do that - and I don't agree that it's ok to say "But I'm teaching math!" because your students still see your writing. You are showing them that it's not important, when in fact it is. So, I'm standing my ground on the teacher thing - but truthfully, I blame the school system that hires the teacher, more than the teacher. I know being a teacher is a thankless, difficult job, but I still hold them to higher standards than most.

As for social media: first off, I'm not here to help someone with their grammar. Quite frankly, if I corrected it nicely, the reaction would have been the same - that grammar is insignificant and doesn't matter. It still would have been seen as elitist.

I never understand why people say they only have bad grammar on social media - you either know how to put a sentence together, or you don't. It's not as though social media suddenly makes you forget how to write. So, I highly doubt someone who writes on here in complete run-on, not-punctuated-correctly, misspelled, verb disagreement everywhere, improper-word-usage filled sentences suddenly goes to work and is doing Pullitzer prize winning writing.

Maybe some of you are better decipherers than I am, but I most certainly do come across posts that I have no earthly idea what they are trying to say. No, I'm not going to read your post 3 times to figure it out. If it's gibberish, I'm moving on. And if it gets to where the majority of your posts are like that, I'll just skip over them automatically. So, rather than saying I think someone is unintelligent, I'll reword to "I assume you have no point because I cannot understand what you are saying."

Lastly, when I finally crack and say something, it is always to someone who is being argumentative for no reason other than to be argumentative. I see all kinds of awful grammar on here and every other social media sites that I never comment on, or really even care about. It's when it is so repetitive, and from someone who is being overbearing and "know it all-ish" that I finally give up and say, "Since you already know everything about everything, can you work on knowing grammar?"

I'm sorry y'all think I'm so elitist and mean, but really... I hesitated to open these floodgates, but here goes. It's obvious (to me at least, and probably a handful of others) that the ruffled feathers here have NOTHING to do with the grammar conversation, and everything to do with previous feelings. It's very clear that the "lines in the sand" were drawn weeks ago, and those that took sides are sticking to them. (the "sides" are easy to figure out, based on who shimmies who in every single thread - and that applies to both sides.)

If I shimmy you, will that throw off the balance? :cool:

I just want everyone to be nice but I get the history here with some posters, whether I agree or not.
 
Fierceboard Grammar Elitists? They are not the main problem on this site.

To be honest, I am more worried about the about the tumbling and team level elitists. You know, the ones who like to dictate that other kids should be "moved to rec" or find another sport if they don't move up according to their timeline? The ones who are so busy bragging about their child's success that they are willing to dismiss the hard work that others put into the sport too. My mind is still blown at the audacity that someone would come on this site and judge other kids' progression. I know that her posts come under fire nearly everyday. Imo, her grammar mistakes wouldn't be as noticeable, if the poster's history did not warrant scrutiny of her posts, due to previous lies, embellishments, and provocative arguments.
Dang. Here I thought we were speaking in hypotheticals.
 
I don't think I'd be able to post here in fear of getting stoned when I accidentally use "their" instead of "they're" :P

I know you're being facetious, but to clarify, no one is talking about these types of errors. I barely even notice this.
Fierceboard Grammar Elitists? They are not the main problem on this site.

To be honest, I am more worried about the about the tumbling and team level elitists. You know, the ones who like to dictate that other kids should be "moved to rec" or find another sport if they don't move up according to their timeline? The ones who are so busy bragging about their child's success that they are willing to dismiss the hard work that others put into the sport too. My mind is still blown at the audacity that someone would come on this site and judge other kids' progression. I know that her posts come under fire nearly everyday. Imo, her grammar mistakes wouldn't be as noticeable, if the poster's history did not warrant scrutiny of her posts, due to previous lies, embellishments, and provocative arguments.

I love you for this.
 
Dang. Here I thought we were speaking in hypotheticals.

Others might be talking in hypotheticals. I can not speak for them. As for me, I usually gloss over other people's grammar mistakes with hopes that others will do the same for me. (I am well aware that I am the world's worst typist and I have an annoying habit of using a semicolon and not an apostrophe. Believe me, I know the difference, my fingers refuse to type it correctly!)

There are only two people whose posts I notice grammar. Both of whom, seem to have an ulterior motives and love to stir the pot. I don't understand why they would treat this site with such disrespect.
 
keeping the derailment going...the board has a thing for grammar - it has been that way since I joined eons ago, and isn't a secret. We don't have a FB award for Grammar Nazi just for the fun of it. The board also has a thing for sarcasm, (which is why I love the board so much - I can appreciate posts even when I am the target of them, and have been told to slow my roll more than once). Just because a handful of posters join who can't put a sentence together and will post untruths as fact and not have an open mind to opinions other than their own even though many of them start threads asking for advice doesn't make any of us bad people for our responses. Notice those are the posters that get called out - the occasional poster that is adding input to a thread and isn't being rude and obnoxious doesn't get called out for grammar mistakes.
Just like in any environment, if you want to mess with the culture of a group, have at it, but don't expect a welcome mat and a cherry pie in return.
 
I was taught grammar, but we never diagramed sentences, or at least we didn't call it that.

I've been hard in thought trying to think about the term for what you mentioned in diagrammed sentences - I believe, we used to call it conjugating sentences... In English/Language Arts classes in the past, students were conjugating already formulated sentences from textbooks, which in many ways made writing a chore, as opposed to a joy... I believe most classes have stopped this practice because the research have shown that most students did not learn how to write well by isolating separate sentences in the manner taught before and discouraged free thoughts and expressions... I believe students are learning to do free-writing, which encourage the writing process and then in the editing stage - isolating of the students' own writings for grammar, punctuation and sentence structure... At least, this is what I was told by my English/Language Arts colleagues...
 
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