All-Star Cnn Cea Youtbe Link

[CheerCoach84]

Coop. You have 8-tracks in the basement, don't you. 45s? You're OG, playa.

I really do!!! I don't have 8 tracks though....Those my parents have , however, I have over 1000 Cassette tapes!! I can't get rid of them, I listen to them all of the time, the music from the 70's, 80's and early 90's I LOVE!!!!!!! I am the the OG!!:fro:

 

[CheerCoach84]

It is one of my favorites as well and can never find anything in detail about it online just small mentions of it being made.

That was probably Cheerleader Nation. Donna Martin was their coach for True Life but Ryan was too small to be on the team. Their school wasn't founded until 1990 so it was when they really started getting recognized for their talent.

PLDHS has been a force in the high school cheer circut since the early 90's, not to long after they opened their doors, they had some , or have some Great teams in their history!!! IMO of course.....

 

[StarshipTrooper]

AGREED. I started to go into this in my post, but I had to cut it short and do some real work.

I'm not really very sympathetic when everyone keeps saying we force fame on people...and then they do all these interviews and magazine covers. If there are so many drawbacks to fame and Maddie is so miserable with all the horrible things that being a cheerlebrity is bringing into her life she could always say "No" to the interviews, the camera crews following her, etc. Or her parents could.

You are way off base, making assumptions and statements about things of which you have no idea of the circumstances. Fire away but understand almost everything you are saying is not correct. For instance, over 150 cheerleaders from 3 gyms signed the same waiver and allowed themselves to be filmed and interviewed. CNN chose her. The little girls that come up to competitions and ask for autographs chose her. The cheer magazines approached and chose her. The coaches over the last ten years that watch her perform chose her. It is not my job to limit her choices in life, but to monitor them and make sure they are the best for her. There is nothing wrong with her doing this documentary and nothing wrong with how she handled herself or answered her questions. Nothing. And she is not complaining and has already dealt on a personal level with the people you are talking about. You are wrong in your characterizations of her teammates, her coaches, the gym and their relationships and the people who know her. But you persist. Just know, however, that in what you are saying you are wrong. Now, free county and board, but you are beating a dead horse for reasons I assume you understand.

 

[canttouchthis]

AGREED. I started to go into this in my post, but I had to cut it short and do some real work.

you work?

 

[yung.STAR]

I'm beginning to love the post of @Just-a-Mom !!!

 

[Just-a-Mom]

You are way off base, making assumptions and statements about things of which you have no idea of the circumstances. Fire away but understand almost everything you are saying is not correct. For instance, over 150 cheerleaders from 3 gyms signed the same waiver and allowed themselves to be filmed and interviewed. CNN chose her. The little girls that come up to competitions and ask for autographs chose her. The cheer magazines approached and chose her. The coaches over the last ten years that watch her perform chose her. It is not my job to limit her choices in life, but to monitor them and make sure they are the best for her. There is nothing wrong with her doing this documentary and nothing wrong with how she handled herself or answered her questions. Nothing. And she is not complaining and has already dealt on a personal level with the people you are talking about. You are wrong in your characterizations of her teammates, her coaches, the gym and their relationships and the people who know her. But you persist. Just know, however, that in what you are saying you are wrong. Now, free county and board, but you are beating a dead horse for reasons I assume you understand.

I 100% agree on the part I bolded and underlined. I don't know how many more times I can agree before you guys will see it, but I'll try again. I. Liked. The. CNN. Piece. I liked it a lot. I sent the link to ALL of my non-cheer people in my life who hate cheer and said "If you can watch this and STILL not see anything redeeming then I don't know what to say. Smart, athletic, wholesome - everything you say cheer isn't." I have not ONCE said in this whole thread ONE negative thing about Maddie. So I think the reason I'm beating the dead horse is because every time I reply I get attacked for things I am NOT DOING OR SAYING. Why would I just sit here and not respond? No one else is - everyone defends themselves when they feel they are being accused of something they aren't doing.

I was replying to a very lengthy post that said no one asks to be famous and that it's horrible and causes a lot of problems...The post implied that fame is just thrust upon someone and there is nothing they can do to avoid it. I was disagreeing with that. Of course I think she is very gracious to spend half (or more) her competition day posing for photos and signing autographs. But since the post implied that she doesn't want all these people hounding and stalking her, my answer was "Then limit the amount of publicity that you CAN limit." I don't need to know her or you or her coaches or anyone else to know that a lot of publicity is avoidable. Can she avoid all of it? Not at this point, no. But some of it, yes.

If she doesn't want to avoid it and she loves it, then attack the posters who said it was horrible and unfair for people "force all this fame on her". Tell them that they don't know her and to stop "making assumptions".

Now obviously, as her parent, you're going to be a little more emotionally vested in this than anyone else on here, so I will take that into consideration. I'm sorry if you're so upset that I keep replying, but I would hope you know by now I'm not just going to sit and be called classless (among many other things) when I haven't said or done anything wrong. All I did was disagree with some of the things that were posted. I haven't said one thing that was derogatory towards Maddie.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

you work?

Indeed. I do...but it comes in waves. Some weeks I have nothing to do. CNN nicely aired their special on one of those weeks. ;)

 

[Mamarazzi]

Unfortunately, @Just-a-Mom happens to be the spokesperson for the un-Teal. I read her posts fully because I know what she's trying to say, because she's my friend when I shut my computer down, too. I understand that many times, all she's trying to do is ask people to truly observe situations without looking at them through teal goggles.
And, let's face it, at any time, any one of the afore-mentioned children's parents or coaches could say "No. I don't want drama in the gym. I don't want the hassle that comes with 'Hollywood' notoriety." But apparently, over 150 children's parents from 3 gyms said it was fine. That's great, but look at what happened. And now, they all have cheer together and be great teammates. Resentment and all.

 

[Deleted member 8658]

loved the story it was soo interesting! :D favorite team

 

[imrichhowboutu]

Indeed. I do...but it comes in waves. Some weeks I have nothing to do. CNN nicely aired their special on one of those weeks. ;)

It looks like I'm not the only casualty of the war after all. I really thought I was the only one! haha

And like my one nice post 2 weeks ago, some people don't seem to get it and just want to argue just because its you.

 

[kristenthegreat]

PS @kristenthegreat , if you've read this far, I do still love your sarcasm and humor...despite your love of all things teal. And I am ROLLING laughing at "This is why we can't have nice things":)

I'm cutting out your reply in this, because between yours and mine we'd have a book and then nobody would listen to what we say anymore. And we are wise, I swear. :D And of course I still love you, even though we can both get so dang angry that we're essentially agreeing and not even know it :p

I probably should have prefaced with that my response had little to do with THIS thread itself (I blame waking up unnecessarily early). It has to do with the situation that made this thread necessary. It has to do with the info on the first page of this thread, and with the concept that we had to, according to Kingston (again, I wasn't here so I don't know what the original thread contained. I'm going off what I surmised had happened from the references OTHERS made in their posts, who just so happened to be very specific in their references to what had everyone all up in a tizzy) lock a thread down so people had time to relax, chill and think. About a CNN news piece. On cheer. Really?

@Mamarazzi, you're right. You DON'T have to do any interview. Unless, of course, you're required to in a contract for a film (in regards to publicity). And while Maddie isn't/wasn't, that doesn't mean that all the 'blame' lays at her feet. I can only speak from my experiences on the other side of the fence. And who's to say what would have happened if she said 'No?' Who's to say she wouldn't be accused of being selfish, snooty, too full of herself to do so..It's a double-edged sword.

Maybe I'm just saying I know what it's like to just want to do what you love and yet feel trapped by the notion that somewhere down the road there's the chance the world is going to judge you for just being you. That they're going to want up in your business and that handling that sort of pressure is difficult as heck. I've spoken personally with people who do that every day (because of their career choice or because of their growing notoriety), and the complications it adds can be devastating. And that I wouldn't wish that burden on anyone. Paul O'Connell (a famous Irish rugby player) is friends with my friends cousin. He apparently skipped out on his friends wedding so as not to draw attention away from them and their special day. I'd never want to make that choice.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Dang, I hate when I can't edit my own stuff in the 4 minutes. All my really good wit comes when I have extra extra time to think!
I was going to say: If I could model my future acting career, it would be based on someone like Emma Stone, Kate Winslet or Morgan Freeman. Never really see them in the media (could be because Kate's English), yet they do fantastical work. They are my dream team. They do their necessary film interviews (which, again, are demanded under some contracts), seem like absolutely LOVELY people, and attempt to live relatively normal lives.

Again, I still love you all. I still feel very strongly about this, but we can still all hold hands and sing songs "I gave my love a cherry...that had no stone. I gave my love a chicken....that haaaad nooooo boooone.." :eek:

 

[Just-a-Mom]

I'm cutting out your reply in this, because between yours and mine we'd have a book and then nobody would listen to what we say anymore. And we are wise, I swear. :D And of course I still love you, even though we can both get so dang angry that we're essentially agreeing and not even know it :p

lock a thread down so people had time to relax, chill and think. About a CNN news piece. On cheer. Really?

:kiss: LOL at the whole first paragraph.

And really...yes. We did. And we relaxed...we chilled...we thought a lot...about the CNN news piece. On cheer. And then we re-watched it, decided it was a great piece.

And then..........:eek: THIS. THREAD.

I literally have gotten a headache from this thread and I've decided that that is silly. And my friend @Mamarazzi reminded me that last time I had a "Teal Day" I was in the hospital for 5 days. I'm still not sure the 2 were related, but the headache today and the puffy feet would indicate that it's a possibility. :p

So I will leave it at this:

1. first and foremost, Maddie represented cheer extremely well (hardy har har...pun intended). She was well spoken, mature, and gave a great in-depth look at what it takes to be an allstar cheerleader. A great look that even the most anti-cheer person would have to take a second look and say "Hmmmm...that's not what I was expecting." Regardless of anything else that has been said in this thread, no one can take that away from her.

2. I really am not nearly as hung up on CEA as this thread makes it seem. I just wish sometimes people could take off the teal-colored glasses and realize that not everyone loves CEA. And that doesn't make them bad people. No need to go so ballistic every time someone says something against the almighty teal. And I have had numerous people tell me they're happy I speak my mind because they can't, usually because they are someone who matters and people would make a whole new thing out of that. So as Mamarazzi said, I am the spokesperson for the Un-Teal. So I get a little fired up because sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the world who doesn't bleed teal - or at least the only person who will admit it. And I don't take kindly to being attacked and called essentially "dumb" and "classless" simply because I disagree with something.

3. Lastly, I. LIKED. THE. CNN. PIECE.

 

[kristenthegreat]

:kiss: LOL at the whole first paragraph.

And really...yes. We did. And we relaxed...we chilled...we thought a lot...about the CNN news piece. On cheer. And then we re-watched it, decided it was a great piece.

And then..........:eek: THIS. THREAD.

I literally have gotten a headache from this thread and I've decided that that is silly. And my friend @Mamarazzi reminded me that last time I had a "Teal Day" I was in the hospital for 5 days. I'm still not sure the 2 were related, but the headache today and the puffy feet would indicate that it's a possibility. :p

So I will leave it at this:

1. first and foremost, Maddie represented cheer extremely well (hardy har har...pun intended). She was well spoken, mature, and gave a great in-depth look at what it takes to be an allstar cheerleader. A great look that even the most anti-cheer person would have to take a second look and say "Hmmmm...that's not what I was expecting." Regardless of anything else that has been said in this thread, no one can take that away from her.

2. I really am not nearly as hung up on CEA as this thread makes it seem. I just wish sometimes people could take off the teal-colored glasses and realize that not everyone loves CEA. And that doesn't make them bad people. No need to go so ballistic every time someone says something against the almighty teal. And I have had numerous people tell me they're happy I speak my mind because they can't, usually because they are someone who matters and people would make a whole new thing out of that. So as Mamarazzi said, I am the spokesperson for the Un-Teal. So I get a little fired up because sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the world who doesn't bleed teal - or at least the only person who will admit it. And I don't take kindly to being attacked and called essentially "dumb" and "classless" simply because I disagree with something.

3. Lastly, I. LIKED. THE. CNN. PIECE.

1. I agree. I agree. Aanndd..I agree. Thought BOTH CNN and Maddie did an excellent job representing Allstar Cheer. Think I said that somewhere in my first tangent/tizzy. Probably got buried under my excessive use of capslock. I'm still insisting my finger slipped..I swear.

2. You don't have to love them. I love them..about as much as I love puppies, kittens, cupcakes, rainbows, the beach, and fudge (I just bought a delicious box from when I went to Newport. I'd send you some, but I don't share). Not as much as Harry Potter, mashed potatoes, Cinnabon, or the man I will rope into marriage if it kills me (Save the Gingers!). I DON'T like people using someone's good fortune against them/as a reason to hate them. I DON'T like when people attack someone because they feel someone's fame gives them the right. People are allowed to have their opinion. I'm allowed to think they're an idiot because of it (Not that I think you're an idiot. You're lovely and one of the best online cheer moms a girl could have. :D I disagree with my real-life mom all the time. We're essentially the same person so our arguments are usually louder lol). I don't think you're dumb. I hope you didn't think I thought you were dumb or classless. NOW if I thought you were trashing an underage girl, I'd ask you if you needed some chocolate because you were probably having a bad day. You're too sensible to do something like that haha

3. ME. TOO. We should sit in a corner with a nice cup of tea and cookies and chat about it. :eek: PS- I blame you for making me want to use that smiley all the time.

I suppose I'm allowed to get flack when I'm angry YET tardy to the party about it. :oops:

 

[Mamarazzi]

If I could model my future acting career, it would be based on someone like Emma Stone, Kate Winslet or Morgan Freeman. Never really see them in the media (could be because Kate's English), yet they do fantastical work. They are my dream team. They do their necessary film interviews (which, again, are demanded under some contracts), seem like absolutely LOVELY people, and attempt to live relatively normal lives.

Yeah, til Kate gains a pound and a half and everyone on Earth hears about it, or Morgan Freeman marries his step-granddaughter.