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oncecoolcoachnowmom said:
Somewhat related:

Since we're all in here & the season is now officially over I figured I'd remind everyone:

Don't forget to cancel your FloCheer/VarsityTV subscription before they charge you again.

(Weird to be saying that without a Worlds thread or Worlds Monday work hangover.)
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I’m surprised people hadn’t already right after UCA.
 
quietmom said:
......... and this is how second waves happen.........
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A second wave has always been predicted. Sheltering and job loss isn't doing our immune systems any favors and that's based on decades of research. COVID19 was unknown and they expected millions (not thousands) of deaths. The American death rate for COVID19 is currently .00015% with 95% of all deaths having a primary underlying condition (diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, immunodificiency, ...). American unemployment from COVID19 is now at 26 million. Here's some facts with what increases with job loss: Poor health, hunger, homelessness, alcohol/drug abuse, suicide, child/spousal physical abuse, rape, violence, and crime.

Hotspots have good reason to continue to shelter, but the majority of states and hospitals are not only quiet, they are furloughing medical staff.....in the middle of a pandemic..... where a second wave is predicted. Things need to open slowly and as these hospitals can handle it.
<article> Shanghai Disneyland May Reopen During May Holiday (30% capacity)

Things that lower your immunity:

Isolation-Isolation Has Profound Effects on The Human Body And Brain. Here's What Happens
Low Vitamin D-Vitamin D is crucial for immune health -- make sure you're getting enough - CNET
Depression-How Depression Affects Your Immune System - DispatchHealth
Stress-Stress Weakens the Immune System
Immobility-The Effects of Immobility on the Body Systems | Healthy Living
Drinking alcohol-Booze sales are booming as people stockpile alcohol ... but it may not last - CNN
 
Cheeranswers said:
I’m not from the US so maybe I’m just out of touch but I can’t for the life of me understand why a country that gets 30 thousand new confirmed cases daily would want to ease up on restrictions
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‘Cause ‘Murica. We value the individual over the group and no one is gonna tell us what we can do. We got rights durnit. (My eye rolling emojis didn’t post so needed to make the sarcasm alert part of my post)
 
catlady said:
A second wave has always been predicted. Sheltering and job loss isn't doing our immune systems any favors and that's based on decades of research. COVID19 was unknown and they expected millions (not thousands) of deaths. The American death rate for COVID19 is currently .00015% with 95% of all deaths having a primary underlying condition (diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, immunodificiency, ...). American unemployment from COVID19 is now at 26 million. Here's some facts with what increases with job loss: Poor health, hunger, homelessness, alcohol/drug abuse, suicide, child/spousal physical abuse, rape, violence, and crime.

Hotspots have good reason to continue to shelter, but the majority of states and hospitals are not only quiet, they are furloughing medical staff.....in the middle of a pandemic..... where a second wave is predicted. Things need to open slowly and as these hospitals can handle it.
<article> Shanghai Disneyland May Reopen During May Holiday (30% capacity)

Things that lower your immunity:

Isolation-Isolation Has Profound Effects on The Human Body And Brain. Here's What Happens
Low Vitamin D-Vitamin D is crucial for immune health -- make sure you're getting enough - CNET
Depression-How Depression Affects Your Immune System - DispatchHealth
Stress-Stress Weakens the Immune System
Immobility-The Effects of Immobility on the Body Systems | Healthy Living
Drinking alcohol-Booze sales are booming as people stockpile alcohol ... but it may not last - CNN
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Disney world is a huge hotspot potential. They know it. They're not going to risk it, and they chose to close. I don't see them opening up again for a while. They don't want to have the PR damage from being ground zero for the 2nd wave starting back. I hate it for the employees who work there.
 
Cheeranswers said:
I’m not from the US so maybe I’m just out of touch but I can’t for the life of me understand why a country that gets 30 thousand new confirmed cases daily would want to ease up on restrictions
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We have a strong independent spirit. That manifests as a healthy distrust of government specifically and authority generally. There are times when that is warranted and there are times when it is counterproductive.
 
Cheeranswers said:
I’m not from the US so maybe I’m just out of touch but I can’t for the life of me understand why a country that gets 30 thousand new confirmed cases daily would want to ease up on restrictions
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With increased testing comes increased cases, remember 80% of people have mild to medium symptoms and they are now able to get tested. Our neighbor, a nurse, has tested 3 times because she has to test negative to go back to work. She’s not been asked how many times she’s been tested, so her 3 positive tests are counted each time. Look at hospitalization rates instead, they are really low across the majority of the US.

@quietmom which is why I posted Shanghai’s Disneyland article with a potential opening in May at 30% capacity. We can’t live in fear of “potential” if there’s a common sense approach of getting people back to work while balancing our hospital capacity. We can’t ignore what decades of research and history has shown us with mass unemployment either.
 
I saw this on Justin Carrier's twitter. Sharing because I love it! "Generous Assumption"

"Just because a decision is made that you don’t agree with, it doesn’t mean anyone’s motives are malicious or misguided. It just means you don’t agree. “My life is better when I work from the assumption that everyone’s doing the best they can.” – Brené Brown"
 
catlady said:
With increased testing comes increased cases, remember 80% of people have mild to medium symptoms and they are now able to get tested. Our neighbor, a nurse, has tested 3 times because she has to test negative to go back to work. She’s not been asked how many times she’s been tested, so her 3 positive tests are counted each time. Look at hospitalization rates instead, they are really low across the majority of the US.

@quietmom which is why I posted Shanghai’s Disneyland article with a potential opening in May at 30% capacity. We can’t live in fear of “potential” if there’s a common sense approach of getting people back to work while balancing our hospital capacity. We can’t ignore what decades of research and history has shown us with mass unemployment either.
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It depends on when Florida is going to be opening under phase 2

Opening Up America Again | The White House

I just don't see how it's going to be possible to hold an event like they're proposing under phase 2 guidelines. That is my opinion. Personally, I wouldn't risk sending my kid or going there even if they are perfectly healthy.

I hope that gyms wouldn't penalize families and athletes who chose to opt out.
 
BlueCat said:
We have a strong independent spirit. That manifests as a healthy distrust of government specifically and authority generally. There are times when that is warranted and there are times when it is counterproductive.
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Very interesting! I can understand that. Hopefully for everyone’s sake the numbers go down soon (not just there but everywhere). Was supposed to take a trip there this summer. Next year I suppose!!
 
quietmom said:
Disney world is a huge hotspot potential. They know it. They're not going to risk it, and they chose to close. I don't see them opening up again for a while. They don't want to have the PR damage from being ground zero for the 2nd wave starting back. I hate it for the employees who work there.
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It sounds as though they are using events as their “soft” opening, using them as their entry into “phase 2”. The dates are conspicuously close to the model dates for when social distancing measures could be switched to containment in the area. ( like within a week). I think it is ambitious, but possible.
 
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