All-Star Covid-19 / Varsity Response

[UCFKnights07]

Well the theme parks opened back up so I want to imagine its gonna get worse again.. But the numbers in florida have been going up for awhile now...

 

[tojofasho]

Exactly. We’ve had a surprising number of people in their 20s/30s who get severe infections and survive, but not before their kidneys fail or they have significant irreversible lung damage. They’re not getting reported as deaths because they survived so the mortality for their age group is low, but they now have the COPD of an 80 year old who smoked a pack a day for 50+ years but they’ve never smoked a day I their life, Covid just wrecked their lungs forever.

So when they die 20 years earlier than they would of due to a lifetime of complications from impaired lung function, will they get reported as a Covid death? Not even then, they’ll get reported as a death from COPD/Chronic Lung Failure. I think we’re severely under reporting how bad this can be for young people as well.

Just because young people aren’t dying doesn’t mean there aren’t young people getting their life changed forever.

I've been watching the conversation and figured I'd weigh in on at least this part in particular. I'm 26, never smoked a day in my life, no asthma, still cheering, just all around pretty healthy (minus a chronic ankle condition). I got COVID back in the first half of March, I was the 28th case in my state and ended up getting breathing treatments at the ER it got so bad. I now have an inhaler for the first time in my life, and when I run the mile at the start of practice (which use to be unpleasant but bearable), I almost can't breathe by the end of it. Went back for a checkup with a doctor and they basically confirmed that I have lung damage, though whether it's temporary or long term has yet to be seen.

Basically, while the majority of deaths/long term injuries occur in older people, it's happening to us 'younger' folk as well like Andy said. Nobody is safe, not you, your child, or any other family members. Your odds are better than the old folks at the nursing home, sure, and you probably won't die, but you very well may get saddled with a lifelong condition.

 

[quietmom]

I've been watching the conversation and figured I'd weigh in on at least this part in particular. I'm 26, never smoked a day in my life, no asthma, still cheering, just all around pretty healthy (minus a chronic ankle condition). I got COVID back in the first half of March, I was the 28th case in my state and ended up getting breathing treatments at the ER it got so bad. I now have an inhaler for the first time in my life, and when I run the mile at the start of practice (which use to be unpleasant but bearable), I almost can't breathe by the end of it. Went back for a checkup with a doctor and they basically confirmed that I have lung damage, though whether it's temporary or long term has yet to be seen.

Basically, while the majority of deaths/long term injuries occur in older people, it's happening to us 'younger' folk as well like Andy said. Nobody is safe, not you, your child, or any other family members. Your odds are better than the old folks at the nursing home, sure, and you probably won't die, but you very well may get saddled with a lifelong condition.

I wish you a full recovery. My kids have long term lung issues. One tip for you. Get simply saline and add it to your daily life. Do it when brushing your teeth. It will help your lungs feel better. I hope you get back to normal soon.

 

[cac4life]

If you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? It is incredibly important to not revolve your life around one thing. There is too much to life and so much more to live for than cheer.

I can't say, but I am a teenager. That's all I can say

 

[bdsbc]

I’m not sure if this has been posted but I can’t see anything about it.
Prodigy put out a statement about having their first confirmed case less than a week ago and are planning on reopening Monday. To me it isn’t a great idea but that’s just me.

 

[catlady]

For Covid, it’s best to look at the recommendations of large professional organizations/medical journals rather than individual health care professionals (again, myself included).

Many people tend to trust those of you on the front lines much more than we trust government and privately funded agencies and organizations. However, my BIL, ER nurse niece and many others that are writing governors about mask wearing, are concerned that during the hot summer months, masking wearing will have people touching their face much more often than without a mask. We can always pick and choose the data that agrees with our stance, but we can't ignore there are corporations, organizations and individuals that stand to gain millions, billions and trillions on COVID19. Instead of reporting the very few hospital beds being used right now for COVID19, they are hyping the new cases and conveniently leave out it is because they have more testing and sites available. The WHO and Dr. Birx don't necessarily disagree with these front line workers. It's really not that hard to understand that any exertion, especially in warmer and more humid environments, will increase sweat production under masks and result in more mask adjusting and face touching. Gyms can not be compared to very cold hospital environments with disciplined mask wearing staff. I stand with the front liners on this one.

To prevent infection and to slow transmission of COVID-19, do the following:

• Wash your hands regularly with soap and water, or clean them with alcohol-based hand rub.

• Maintain at least 1 meter distance between you and people coughing or sneezing.

• Avoid touching your face

• Cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.

• Stay home if you feel unwell.

• Refrain from smoking and other activities that weaken the lungs.

• Practice physical distancing by avoiding unnecessary travel and staying away from large groups of people.

Learn more at WHO

From Dr. Birx:

“The most important thing is the social distancing and washing your hands,” she said. “And we don’t want people to get an artificial sense of protection because they’re behind a mask. Because if they’re touching things — remember your eyes are not in the mask — so if you’re touching things and then touching your eyes you’re exposing yourself in the same way.”

 

[123jump4!]

@tojofasho Hope you continue to recover! Thanks for sharing your story.

Many people tend to trust those of you on the front lines much more than we trust government and privately funded agencies and organizations. However, my BIL, ER nurse niece and many others that are writing governors about mask wearing, are concerned that during the hot summer months, masking wearing will have people touching their face much more often than without a mask. We can always pick and choose the data that agrees with our stance, but we can't ignore there are corporations, organizations and individuals that stand to gain millions, billions and trillions on COVID19. Instead of reporting the very few hospital beds being used right now for COVID19, they are hyping the new cases and conveniently leave out it is because they have more testing and sites available. The WHO and Dr. Birx don't necessarily disagree with these front line workers. It's really not that hard to understand that any exertion, especially in warmer and more humid environments, will increase sweat production under masks and result in more mask adjusting and face touching. Gyms can not be compared to very cold hospital environments with disciplined mask wearing staff. I stand with the front liners on this one.

To prevent infection and to slow transmission of COVID-19, do the following:

• Wash your hands regularly with soap and water, or clean them with alcohol-based hand rub.

• Maintain at least 1 meter distance between you and people coughing or sneezing.

• Avoid touching your face

• Cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.

• Stay home if you feel unwell.

• Refrain from smoking and other activities that weaken the lungs.

• Practice physical distancing by avoiding unnecessary travel and staying away from large groups of people.

Learn more at WHO

From Dr. Birx:

“The most important thing is the social distancing and washing your hands,” she said. “And we don’t want people to get an artificial sense of protection because they’re behind a mask. Because if they’re touching things — remember your eyes are not in the mask — so if you’re touching things and then touching your eyes you’re exposing yourself in the same way.”

That sounds like the recommendations in Sweden and they have one of the worst death numbers in the world, plus they are the only country in Europe where the virus is still spreading out of control. Masks are not recommended there.

I believe masks do work and it has been proven in several studies. For cheer I think at least for stunting masks would be a good idea!

 

[cheermomforever]

I think gyms should reopen, but as I told my daughter, more conditioning, better jumps and better tumbling techniques could be the positive thing to come out of this!!

 

[AshleyErin]

Many people tend to trust those of you on the front lines much more than we trust government and privately funded agencies and organizations. However, my BIL, ER nurse niece and many others that are writing governors about mask wearing, are concerned that during the hot summer months, masking wearing will have people touching their face much more often than without a mask. We can always pick and choose the data that agrees with our stance, but we can't ignore there are corporations, organizations and individuals that stand to gain millions, billions and trillions on COVID19. Instead of reporting the very few hospital beds being used right now for COVID19, they are hyping the new cases and conveniently leave out it is because they have more testing and sites available. The WHO and Dr. Birx don't necessarily disagree with these front line workers. It's really not that hard to understand that any exertion, especially in warmer and more humid environments, will increase sweat production under masks and result in more mask adjusting and face touching. Gyms can not be compared to very cold hospital environments with disciplined mask wearing staff. I stand with the front liners on this one.

To prevent infection and to slow transmission of COVID-19, do the following:

• Wash your hands regularly with soap and water, or clean them with alcohol-based hand rub.

• Maintain at least 1 meter distance between you and people coughing or sneezing.

• Avoid touching your face

• Cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.

• Stay home if you feel unwell.

• Refrain from smoking and other activities that weaken the lungs.

• Practice physical distancing by avoiding unnecessary travel and staying away from large groups of people.

Learn more at WHO

From Dr. Birx:

“The most important thing is the social distancing and washing your hands,” she said. “And we don’t want people to get an artificial sense of protection because they’re behind a mask. Because if they’re touching things — remember your eyes are not in the mask — so if you’re touching things and then touching your eyes you’re exposing yourself in the same way.”

I'm unsure if the states has anything similar to what we have in Canada, but our CPHO has recognized how dangerous improper mask wearing and misinformation can be, and realized that the public needed to be educated properly. They actually came up with a great PSA: COVID-19: How to wear a non-medical mask or face covering properly (video) - Canada.ca that is being distributed and helps clear up how to use masks to cut down on improper use. It's clear that during the summer months, humidity will increase, this may lead to a greater percentage of the public improperly using masks by adjusting and not changing or washing them when necessary. Education is key in preventing that from happening. If one knows how a mask protects those around them/can compromise their own health if used improperly, they are less likely to do those things.

People don't make mistakes because they want to, they make mistakes because they aren't aware they are making one.

 

[Atxmom]

I was happy with our gym. They sent out policy that you have to opt in & consent to hands on or stunting. If you aren’t ready for direct contact it said don’t opt in. I didn’t sign consent because I want to see how policies work & because my daughter is about to visit 80 year old grandmother she has not seen in 7 months.

Policy did not matter. They had first practice. Coaches had everyone take off mask & stunt. I’m extremely disappointed & annoyed they would put something on paper for show, with no intention of following it.

 

[CheerBank]

I was happy with our gym. They sent out policy that you have to opt in & consent to hands on or stunting. If you aren’t ready for direct contact it said don’t opt in. I didn’t sign consent because I want to see how policies work & because my daughter is about to visit 80 year old grandmother she has not seen in 7 months.

Policy did not matter. They had first practice. Coaches had everyone take off mask & stunt. I’m extremely disappointed & annoyed they would put something on paper for show, with no intention of following it.

So now what? Do you pull your kid? To actually put a policy on paper, have parents consent and then to blatantly disregard that policy seems like they could be opening themselves to a lawsuit if anyone gets sick. It’s worse to me than having no policy.

 

[CheerBank]

Many people tend to trust those of you on the front lines much more than we trust government and privately funded agencies and organizations. However, my BIL, ER nurse niece and many others that are writing governors about mask wearing, are concerned that during the hot summer months, masking wearing will have people touching their face much more often than without a mask. We can always pick and choose the data that agrees with our stance, but we can't ignore there are corporations, organizations and individuals that stand to gain millions, billions and trillions on COVID19. Instead of reporting the very few hospital beds being used right now for COVID19, they are hyping the new cases and conveniently leave out it is because they have more testing and sites available. The WHO and Dr. Birx don't necessarily disagree with these front line workers. It's really not that hard to understand that any exertion, especially in warmer and more humid environments, will increase sweat production under masks and result in more mask adjusting and face touching. Gyms can not be compared to very cold hospital environments with disciplined mask wearing staff. I stand with the front liners on this one.

To prevent infection and to slow transmission of COVID-19, do the following:

• Wash your hands regularly with soap and water, or clean them with alcohol-based hand rub.

• Maintain at least 1 meter distance between you and people coughing or sneezing.

• Avoid touching your face

• Cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.

• Stay home if you feel unwell.

• Refrain from smoking and other activities that weaken the lungs.

• Practice physical distancing by avoiding unnecessary travel and staying away from large groups of people.

Learn more at WHO

From Dr. Birx:

“The most important thing is the social distancing and washing your hands,” she said. “And we don’t want people to get an artificial sense of protection because they’re behind a mask. Because if they’re touching things — remember your eyes are not in the mask — so if you’re touching things and then touching your eyes you’re exposing yourself in the same way.”

I would have highlighted the last point first in regards to cheer.

 

[alpaca]

I was happy with our gym. They sent out policy that you have to opt in & consent to hands on or stunting. If you aren’t ready for direct contact it said don’t opt in. I didn’t sign consent because I want to see how policies work & because my daughter is about to visit 80 year old grandmother she has not seen in 7 months.

Policy did not matter. They had first practice. Coaches had everyone take off mask & stunt. I’m extremely disappointed & annoyed they would put something on paper for show, with no intention of following it.

Why would you trust a single thing that the gym says after this?

 

[catlady]

I would have highlighted the last point first in regards to cheer.

Good point. Ultimately, it's realistic for gyms to require hand sanitizing, temp/symptom checks and social distancing. Expecting kids to wear a mask and not touch their face or adjust it while tumbling and jumping isn't going to happen. A couple of months ago, while we were in lock down, I was one of those that thought masks would and should be a new normal in gyms. Now, based on these dr's observations, I'm watching for "mask discipline," and we truly stink at it.

@123jump4! As of June 12, Sweden was ranked 8th in death toll <Coronavirus Death Rate by Country> Sweden didn't lock down and social distancing was suggested, but not required. If anything, Sweden doing nothing shows us that it doesn't greatly impact the overall numbers. The data is showing elderly population, immune compromised, socio economics and population density impact death rates more than anything.

 

[123jump4!]

Good point. Ultimately, it's realistic for gyms to require hand sanitizing, temp/symptom checks and social distancing. Expecting kids to wear a mask and not touch their face or adjust it while tumbling and jumping isn't going to happen. A couple of months ago, while we were in lock down, I was one of those that thought masks would and should be a new normal in gyms. Now, based on these dr's observations, I'm watching for "mask discipline," and we truly stink at it.

@123jump4! As of June 12, Sweden was ranked 8th in death toll <Coronavirus Death Rate by Country> Sweden didn't lock down and social distancing was suggested, but not required. If anything, Sweden doing nothing shows us that it doesn't greatly impact the overall numbers. The data is showing elderly population, immune compromised, socio economics and population density impact death rates more than anything.

Sweden is 5th in deaths per 1M people if you don’t count miniature countries like Andorra etc. They are WAY worse than their Scandinavian neighbors. Please don’t tell me about my country, I think I know more.