All-Star Crossovers And Sandbagging

[AliciaM]

Okay. I followed you until you brought up boys again.

You would not want your 10 yo on a team with anyone 18/19 regardless of gender, correct? Just clarifying.

Nothing wrong with that opinion. I was just hoping to clarify. In our case we had no age/level appropriate teams that fit cp's abilities. I guess as a result I never thought of it too much to the point where I was worried.


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I wouldn't want my 10 year old son with a bunch of 19 year old girls either! Lol no way! And again like I have said several times if there is no other option for a team then it is what it is.

I also think it's a tad bit different though. Having grown up a girl I know how guys can be. None of my brothers had much older girls hit on them and flirt and just be plain rude. But plenty of my girl friends and myself have had boys MUCH older hit on me and flirt and act inappropriately.

Now the chances of that happening may be slim since there are coaches, who I'm sure watch out for that sort of behaviour, but I'd still be uneasy about it happening regardless.

Now I'm talking about senior. Would I be worried if my son or daughter was on a coed youth team no...but then again kids aren't thinking about certain things at that age.

 

[Official OWECheer]

A team I saw this weekend competed as Junior 1 but their music said J5 about 4 times. Crossing up or down 1 level, fine. But 4 levels?! I know I have previously said on this board, "it's the team who has the skills the best, and if you're not the best you don't deserve to win." However, taking an entire team down 4 levels crosses the line for me.

Stick around after Worlds headed to the Summit
Turn that Level 5 into a 3, yeah we up and done it!

 

[luv2cheer92]

Stick around after Worlds headed to the Summit
Turn that Level 5 into a 3, yeah we up and done it!

@David where is this year's mix? Haha

 

[Official OWECheer]

@David where is this year's mix? Haha

Get ready to go full out.

ETA: I thought you had asked "where is this mix?" Whoops lol.

 

[MzLyn23]

Get ready to go full out.

ETA: I thought you had asked "where is this mix?" Whoops lol.

omg i'm dead :deadhorse:

 

[Cheermom1969]

Best mix ever! My cp and her friend were playing it in the airport on the way to Dallas, singing along and cracking up!

 

[mamabear]

This thread has taken an interesting turn, imo. After reading everyone's opinions, I realized that I never even thought about "boys". After consideration, I don't think that matters to me. I am just caught up on ages.

 

[MissCongeniality]

CP was 9 her first year on a senior team (different rules then). I think the only question she ever came home with was about shaving legs. She did double team onto the gyms only other team that year as well... Youth. She was on her first coed team at 12.

The "worst" years from a "yikes, what is my baby girl learning" were age 10 on a junior squad where there were some alcohol/drug issues and again at 14 on a senior squad (and honestly...boys never any more an issue than the girls on that team)

 

[CheerBank]

Because, I hope, that the maturity level of a 14 year old would be much different than an 18/19 year old. Hence the topics of conversations of what those kids are going through would be more NC-17 as opposed to PG-13.
But I did add the caveat that it should be a case by case basis. Honestly, unless we change gyms, the odds my CP will be on a S4 team at age 10/11 are very high.

You'd be quite shocked at the topics of conversations amongst 14-15 year olds. I think the older ones would be much more aware of the inappropriateness of a topic than a 14-15 year old would, or at least have the common sense to censor themselves around a much younger child.

 

[AliciaM]

You'd be quite shocked at the topics of conversations amongst 14-15 year olds. I think the older ones would be much more aware of the inappropriateness of a topic than a 14-5 year old would, or at least have the common sense to sensor themselves around a much younger child.

Also, sorry I never explained myself properly in some of my posts on why I know kids can be inappropriate regardless of age and why they don't care sometimes when there are younger girls.

I used to coach senior and we didn't have super young girls but we did have girls who were 13/14 and some girls who were in university since they could super senior. You'd think all of them even seniors in high school would be respectful and mindful of younger girls being around but some of them were not. I had walked in on conversations that were totally inappropriate which was dealt with but I heard again on this trip that some of the same girls were all in their rooms talking about things that make even me as an adult cringe.

So while parents may think their kids would never do that around younger girls or whatever it does happen. Let me just point out that the 14/15 year olds talk about stuff too that makes you want to cry and ask why?!?! But kids are getting younger and younger in which they find out about sex etc. So this is why I personally wouldn't want my 10 year old on a senior team.

My little cousins are 6 and 8 and the 8 year old already comes home with stuff he hears at school..to be honest today's youth scares me lol

I didn't know even half the stuff kids I coach know now :/

 

[Deleted member 15795]

CP was 9 her first year on a senior team (different rules then). I think the only question she ever came home with was about shaving legs. She did double team onto the gyms only other team that year as well... Youth. She was on her first coed team at 12.

The "worst" years from a "yikes, what is my baby girl learning" were age 10 on a junior squad where there were some alcohol/drug issues and again at 14 on a senior squad (and honestly...boys never any more an issue than the girls on that team)

lol I'm more than convinced that my then 10 year old wanted to start shaving because she was on a Junior team flying… this year she was on a senior team and she's mentioned the legs thing several times.

I was more than a little worried about her being on a senior team at 11 and I know she's been exposed to way more than she would have if still on a youth team (duh) but she's LOVED it. I may have been a little more concerned if it was a senior co-ed team. Then again, she has a 14 yr old brother so she's heard more than I care to think about :eek:

 

[Mom2Cheergirls]

Regarding age to me childhood is a gift we give to our children. They will have so much time to be grown up and see and hear things that are for more mature audiences (and a huge part of team bonding is the social time where they can just be themselves and get to know each other and talk about all sorts of things - things appropriate for the age of the girls). It is my responsibility to make sure that each of my children get the gift of a childhood, to hang out with kids their own age and while still work hard as an athlete have peers on the same developmental and social level to share that. With all that said if we are talking about a child that just misses the cut off by a couple of months or may even be a year younger but very mature for her age - then yes age her up if the skill and team is there. Otherwise it would be a no go for me (and yes I get there are certainly some exceptions). We had an option of Junior team last year or a Youth team. The gym with the Junior team would have made life MUCH easier for me - the Youth team is where we went because it was best for my kids overall. I think each family needs to make the best call for them but sometimes I think people are so focused on getting kids on the highest team or be the flyer that they aren't looking at the child as a whole even if that means staying put at a level for 1 more year.

 

[CAmom66]

They are not true level 2 kids lol

There were girls on Miss Silver (that is their worlds team I think) that crossed over to level 2 last season[emoji23]

Their j2 beat my daughters at UCA and then they told us we weren't even good we only won NCA because we were from Texas ... Funny I heard the same thing this year [emoji57]

But hey they are back 2 back j2 summit champs so what do I know.
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They were really good this year. I got up early and saw it myself. They deserved to win - I don't care where you're from.

 

[TheVipersMom]

They were really good this year. I got up early and saw it myself. They deserved to win - I don't care where you're from.

I agree their j2 was amazing. We definitely don't feel we should have beat them.


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[CAmom66]

Aren't one mans illegal for J2 ?

Not at all - not even for youth 2. CPs Y2 had them in the routine last year, and her J2 has 5 or 6 in their opening this year. And, our girls are true Level 2 athletes.;)