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NHS walk-in centres

Walk-in centres - WICs - emergency and urgent care - NHS Choices

 

[Pip22]

From what I understand they are few and far between and private, has that changed recently?


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They are neither private nor few and far between, and this has been the case for as long as I can remember. In recent years they have increased with the introduction of Polyclinics, though you could argue that some A&E's have suffered as a result.

Like I said before, the NHS has got huge flaws and I actually do think some reforms should be put in place, especially the idea of part privitisation. But I do think you're painting a slightly unfair picture of a system you don't use yourself.

I agree with previous posters, the German model seems to be the most effective I've read about.

 

[cheermomforever]

a friend went in for a small surgery and the IV for anesthesia leaked and now they say they owe the hospital 38,000. Mostly because of their mistake! Crazy, if I was a lawyer i would gladly take that case!

 

[Helen uk uni cheer]

They are neither private nor few and far between, and this has been the case for as long as I can remember. In recent years they have increased with the introduction of Polyclinics, though you could argue that some A&E's have suffered as a result.

Like I said before, the NHS has got huge flaws and I actually do think some reforms should be put in place, especially the idea of part privitisation. But I do think you're painting a slightly unfair picture of a system you don't use yourself.

I agree with previous posters, the German model seems to be the most effective I've read about.

I have experianced walk in clinics and in england its great but they do not exist in Wales. I lived in the south west england for most of my life and have always had prolems but they have been exaggerated now I live in Wales

I know care tends to be better in the cities but I dont even live that rurally and have had issues

 

[Pip22]

I have experianced walk in clinics and in england its great but they do not exist in Wales. I lived in the south west england for most of my life and have always had prolems but they have been exaggerated now I live in Wales

I know care tends to be better in the cities but I dont even live that rurally and have had issues

That's one of the problems I have with the NHS, things not correlating across borders (free prescriptions in Wales, ages for children's mental health units, etc). But I used walk in clinics in Cardiff and Bridgend so it's weird they aren't where you are. Again a flaw that needs to be addressed, but shouldn't be used to discredit the whole system. I have no doubt that the NHS has issues and anyone who wants to go private should have the opportunity to do so.

 

[Mom2K]

I belong to several transplant support groups with members from around the world.

In the US, those with end stage kidney failure become eligible for Medicare when they begin dialysis, even those with private insurance (secondary for first 30 months, then primary). Medicare will pay for dialysis as long as needed, the costs of testing for transplant as well as transplant itself. For those of us lucky enough to get a transplant, coverage continues for 36 months unless you are over 65. If you are younger, 3 years post you are on your own.

Inability to afford immunosuppressants is one of the leading causes of loss of transplant. Mine cost about $2000/month now, down from about $3000. That's for just 2 of the meds I take. The truly nonsensical part of all of this is that should your transplant fail and you end up on dialysis, Medicare will kick in again.

Average annual cost of dialysis was about $77,000 when I last checked.
Immunosuppressives average around $30,000.

And they will then cover the costs of another transplant should you be lucky enough to find one for another $100,000 or so with no complications. Of course spending those extra years on dialysis frequently takes a toll on the body which can end up making you ineligible to qualify anyway, so game over for you.

In the UK and Canada, this doesn't happen. When this topic comes up in those support groups, they tend to become very thankful that their coverage won't just disappear someday. Hopefully the ACA provisions that disallow denial of coverage for pre existing conditions will help somewhat, but I've heard of some having difficulty finding affordable plans that cover the specific meds required. I'll find out for myself in 1 1/2 years.

Sorry for the long post, but whenever I see this debate it hits close to home. Yes, we have amazing, high quality healthcare in the US...for those that can afford it. It's quite a different story for those who can't.

 

[Helen uk uni cheer]

That's one of the problems I have with the NHS, things not correlating across borders (free prescriptions in Wales, ages for children's mental health units, etc). But I used walk in clinics in Cardiff and Bridgend so it's weird they aren't where you are. Again a flaw that needs to be addressed, but shouldn't be used to discredit the whole system. I have no doubt that the NHS has issues and anyone who wants to go private should have the opportunity to do so.

I currently live mid wales and the main issue I have is the lack of GP's I can't get an appointment with my gp even though she has requested to see me

NHS is good I have just lost faith in it due to bad experiences I really want to go private just to get a diagnosis because having my back constantly going into spasm is noit normal but currently I cant afford it

 

[gofriars610]

This thread took a very interesting turn.

 

[cheernerd5678]

I'm glad you had a pleasant experience at that US hospital, but I can assure you that we frequently have ER wait times just as long as the ones you describe in the US. I know plenty of people who have gone to the ER with a cheer injury in evening and aren't seen until early morning.

I waited for hours with two broken arms to be seen. Then I waited for hours for my X-rays to come back...... And then was told that only one arm was broken and it was just a minor fracture that probably wouldn't require a cast.
Then I go to the orthopedist and he tells me that it is broken and will definitely require surgery. 3 weeks later we had to insist for them to X-Ray my other arm again because it was still swollen and looked wrong. Turns out the same thing was wrong with that arm. It wasn't even just the ER that missed it, the orthopedic surgeon missed it too AND we paid a lot for all those x Rays, follow ups, etc.

 

[Aussiekat]

Personal experiences are not an absolute reason why one system is better than another. Individual doctors make mistakes. Individual hospitals may have longer waiting times. That doesn't mean completely privatised or completely socialised healthcare is going to bring ruin upon us all. Many of these arguments read like a high school freshman paper.

Considering the majority of the world has some form of socialised healthcare and we all haven't gone to an early grave (yet), I think we're doing ok. Major props to the American system for so many groundbreaking treatments and medications. Both systems have merit. We are all alive.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Personal experiences are not an absolute reason why one system is better than another. Individual doctors make mistakes. Individual hospitals may have longer waiting times. That doesn't mean completely privatised or completely socialised healthcare is going to bring ruin upon us all. Many of these arguments read like a high school freshman paper.

Considering the majority of the world has some form of socialised healthcare and we all haven't gone to an early grave (yet), I think we're doing ok. Major props to the American system for so many groundbreaking treatments and medications. Both systems have merit. We are all alive.

I love it when we agree :D #TeamBagelBows