All-Star Draft Release Of The Universal Scoresheet

[cheernerd5678]

Holy deductions

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[INeverStopCheering]

I find it interesting that to score in the high range of tosses you only have to do one. I know on a lot of scoresheets right now you have to do a team toss but then extras to max out.

But maybe that will determine the difference between who gets a two and who gets fives....? Like doing the bare minimum listed gets you the bottom and extras bump you up?

 

[Ashley]

I find it interesting that to score in the high range of tosses you only have to do one. I know on a lot of scoresheets right now you have to do a team toss but then extras to max out.

But maybe that will determine the difference between who gets a two and who gets fives....? Like doing the bare minimum listed gets you the bottom and extras bump you up?

You're not going to max out with one.

 

[anythingforcheer]

Please excuse my ignorance on score sheets as a parent, but what is the difference between Unified and Universal Score sheet? I thought Jam and Varsity created one score sheet for the season or is this the Worlds score sheet?

 

[SarahS]

Please excuse my ignorance on score sheets as a parent, but what is the difference between Unified and Universal Score sheet? I thought Jam and Varsity created one score sheet for the season or is this the Worlds score sheet?

Here's how I remember:

Unified - Joined together:
Varsity and Jam joined together to (sort of) create a unified score sheet, available here: Varsity All Star Cheerleading - Varsity Scoring and here: The JAM Brands Cheerleading and Dance Competitions (not exactly unified any more, after Varsity made changes)

Universal - of, affecting, or done by all people in a particular group:
USASF is in the process of creating a universal score sheet that could be used by ALL event producers that put on USASF-sanctioned events, available here: Scoring | USASF Rules Site

 

[kristenthegreat]

I'm hoping they adjust those ridiculously wide ranges. Also- seriously? We're STILL on comparative scoring? Needs to go.

Only thing I'm liking so far is the adjustment to deductions. High time we fixed those- although don't be surprised if stunting difficulty doesn't quite excel so much this year..teams had a hard time hitting what they had last year.

 

[njallday]

is this supposed to make me happy? because it doesn't.

I was hoping it would resemble the unified jam/varsity scoresheet. seriously, usasf, this is the one time you choose to not be varsity?!


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[f5forever]

I'm also glad they made the "boundary rule" more clear....even though I remember competing and if you stepped over the white tape you were out of bounds.


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[Underestimated]

it just seems (to me) that whoever the judges like that day is going to win and will most likely not be based on the score sheet.. which is why the ranges are so big. Why follow a score sheet just have the judges sit there win a paper and pen and write down this is who i want to win. have the teams put their best out on the mat. and be done.

professional right? :p

 

[HeyMom]

Also- seriously? We're STILL on comparative scoring? Needs to go.

Why in the world is comparative scoring even a thing?? I just don't understand how this works:confused: If my kid is on MaxedOutSkills All Stars and they compete with Janktastic Cheer and Dance and Craptastic Extreme, how does comparative scoring affect the outcome? Will MaxedOutSkills All Stars' score be "adjusted" to be more in line with the other two teams' scores?

 

[SarahS]

You will not be able to get rid of comparative scoring (in the difficulty score) until you have a code of points. Creating a COP for a team sport like cheer is much more involved than for an individual sport like gymnastics. I'm not saying it is impossible; it will just take a team of professionals with a good deal of knowledge, creativity and free time to get it done. Comparative scoring will, arguably, always exist as long as we allow for judgments on technique, execution, and creativity. I'm not sure you *should* be able to do x, y, and z to "max" out on creativity... it is counter to the whole idea of creativity.

 

[NEliteSteven]

I don't get everyone's problem with comparative scoring. Judges used comparative scoring last year; they just didn't have as much room to go with it. We don't have a code of points, so I'd rather have the judges use common sense, than HAVE to put teams in range with a small difference of .3 or .4 between the highest and low ends. There was nothing worse this year than having (I'll use Level 4 as an example) Team A do Switch up, Fake Full Up, Fake 1 1/2 up, and a Waterfall/Pancake and score the same as Team B that did Full Up, Full Around, Switch Up, Inversion to Extended one leg. Clearly Team B had a harder stunt sequence. I think by widening up the high range, it'll leave judges room to really use common sense to decide this team has more difficulty, and should be scored higher than X Y and Z teams, but not higher than A B and C. Am I maybe more optimistic than most? Probably, but why complain about judging on this score sheet until you actually experience it? I wish people would take more time to get completely educated, before complaining about it.

Just my opinion. Take it or leave it. But it got old seeing teams doing the bare minimum and scoring in the 95-96% range. Difficulty was rarely rewarded, and couldn't be based on the score sheet. Do I think it's the best possible score sheet? No. But at least we're headed in the right direction. My only complaint would be the subjectivity involved in "creative" scores. I might find a full spinning handspring up to one leg creative, but the person next to me judging may have seen it last weekend, and isn't impressed with it. It's too subjective, however, they didn't make it worth as much as they could have so I'm happy.

 

[King]

Scoring is comparative but deductions are not. Should just get rid of deductions if you are using comparative scoring. I don't think deductions make sense in comparative. Team A hits a stunt sequence that is easy and Team B has a hard stunt sequence but one thing falls. Compare those two.

PS - hate the scoresheet.

 

[yojaehs]

Scoresheet doesn't matter if judges continue to suck.


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[CGAcheer]

Comparative wide range scoring causes problems for grand champs/level champs and bids