I'm Going For It !!!!!

[Cheer Dad]

I prefer car washes to candy sales.


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I hated fundraisers all around but know they are an evil necessity. I guess a car wash is better than candy sales though since they last less time.


**Come on, where's Ashton because I think we're being punk'd**

 

[Eyes On The Prize]

Lol this is a place for cheer moms to come and show out because they can't do it at the gym. So they decide to come here. They do it to me too. Don't feel bad.

So then what are you doing here?

Inner thought: This is the second time I've been called a "mom" while being on this board. I'm getting mad. Mainly because I get the title but not the perks. Like entrance to the Parent Section. But also because I'm not a mom.

Ok, let the nonsense carry on. Nonsense that's probably not in the Parents Section....

 

[Just-a-Mom]

Lol this is a place for cheer moms to come and show out because they can't do it at the gym. So they decide to come here. They do it to me too. Don't feel bad.

Girl, swerve. One, I'm 41 years old... I can "show out" anywhere I please - even the gym. [emoji15]

Two, I have tried to defend you, but really... Enough with the "moms" comments. About 80% of the people that reply to you are actually NOT moms.

And three, why do y'all always assume that "Cheer moms" don't do anything besides mom? Did it ever occur to you that most of us have a ton of experience in business, and in running/owning businesses? More than a lot of cheer gym owners even - because in my experience, the majority of them are young and are, quite frankly, HORRIBLE business people. Lovely, nice people, but really bad at making business decisions. Please note I said majority, not all. Obviously, there are a few exceptions - also note that the exceptions are usually over 30, like the dreaded moms. Most of the advice we give is from the pov of someone with about 20-30 years work and business experience, and customers of cheer (remember, we are the target market, not the kids. My kids have no money. I do. I decide where it gets spent.)

Why on earth would you think that people who have 20 years more business experience than you and another 10+ years experience as customers in the industry you want to be in would not know anything valuable? As a customer, I can tell you what would make me give you my money, and what would make me take my money elsewhere. As a business person, I can tell you how to get your business in trouble, fast... And how not to.

As for how that advice is delivered... You get what you give around here.

 

[Eyes On The Prize]

Girl, swerve. One, I'm 41 years old... I can "show out" anywhere I please - even the gym. [emoji15]

Two, I have tried to defend you, but really... Enough with the "moms" comments. About 80% of the people that reply to you are actually NOT moms.

And three, why do y'all always assume that "Cheer moms" don't do anything besides mom? Did it ever occur to you that most of us have a ton of experience in business, and in running/owning businesses? More than a lot of cheer gym owners even - because in my experience, the majority of them are young and are, quite frankly, HORRIBLE business people. Lovely, nice people, but really bad at making business decisions. Please note I said majority, not all. Obviously, there are a few exceptions - also note that the exceptions are usually over 30, like the dreaded moms. Most of the advice we give is from the pov of someone with about 20-30 years work and business experience, and customers of cheer (remember, we are the target market, not the kids. My kids have no money. I do. I decide where it gets spent.)

Why on earth would you think that people who have 20 years more business experience than you and another 10+ years experience as customers in the industry you want to be in would not know anything valuable? As a customer, I can tell you what would make me give you my money, and what would make me take my money elsewhere. As a business person, I can tell you how to get your business in trouble, fast... And how not to.

As for how that advice is delivered... You get what you give around here.

I can't wait for their reactions when they learn that the same gym owners they look up to are cheer moms and dads themselves. Crazy world! Who would've thought?

 

[retiredl5cheer]

@Just-a-Mom Dang it, I love you.

 

[Fierce_Elite]

Girl, swerve. One, I'm 41 years old... I can "show out" anywhere I please - even the gym. [emoji15]

Two, I have tried to defend you, but really... Enough with the "moms" comments. About 80% of the people that reply to you are actually NOT moms.

And three, why do y'all always assume that "Cheer moms" don't do anything besides mom? Did it ever occur to you that most of us have a ton of experience in business, and in running/owning businesses? More than a lot of cheer gym owners even - because in my experience, the majority of them are young and are, quite frankly, HORRIBLE business people. Lovely, nice people, but really bad at making business decisions. Please note I said majority, not all. Obviously, there are a few exceptions - also note that the exceptions are usually over 30, like the dreaded moms. Most of the advice we give is from the pov of someone with about 20-30 years work and business experience, and customers of cheer (remember, we are the target market, not the kids. My kids have no money. I do. I decide where it gets spent.)

Why on earth would you think that people who have 20 years more business experience than you and another 10+ years experience as customers in the industry you want to be in would not know anything valuable? As a customer, I can tell you what would make me give you my money, and what would make me take my money elsewhere. As a business person, I can tell you how to get your business in trouble, fast... And how not to.

As for how that advice is delivered... You get what you give around here.

When did you ever try and defend me? Please tell me when. And running a cheer gym is different than running any other business and unless you have a cheer gym you shouldn't speak on things you don't know.
Like you guys always tell me. Take your own advice why don't ya?

You can show out anywhere you please just because of your age? That shows what kind of person you are.


There is no reason to tag me or quote me in every post I make trying to question me. I'm not talking about just you I'm talking about the same group of people that always quote me on post I comment on. Just trying to stir the pot. You don't have to pay any attention to me but yet you do it anyway because you feel empowerment by doing it.

 

[Just-a-Mom]

When did you ever try and defend me? Please tell me when. And running a cheer gym is different than running any other business and unless you have a cheer gym you shouldn't speak on things you don't know.

In the parent board.

And no, it's not. Business is business. That's why when you go to college and get a degree in business, it's not specific to industry. Basic business principles apply in any industry. As for cheer specific advice, can you please point me to some advice that was given by a parent that was inaccurate? The only cheer specific things I saw were things about certifications and safety - are you saying that's not good advice?

 

[Fierce_Elite]

In the parent board.

And no, it's not. Business is business. That's why when you go to college and get a degree in business, it's not specific to industry. Basic business principles apply in any industry. As for cheer specific advice, can you please point me to some advice that was given by a parent that was inaccurate? The only cheer specific things I saw were things about certifications and safety - are you saying that's not good advice?

Why couldn't you do this some where I can see?

Did I ever say that parent advice was immaculate? No. So don't put words in my mouth if that's what you're trying to do.

Yes, colleges do just have one program for business however, when you get into a specific industry don't you have to take separate classes? Yes you do.


For a Salon... You have to go to a cosmetologist school. If you'd like to open your own salon you have to take business classes. But in order to run a salon, you still have to go to that COSMETOLOGY SCHOOL. The one that teaches you not only about hair and makeup, but also state board requirements and such.


If you want a Cheer gym, you have to go to a business school. Yes. But that only helps to a certain point. Depending on what type of gym you actually want to run or program, you need to go through a certification process through USASF and it is as well highly recommended that you'll need to attend regular regional meetings.

If you want to become a lawyer you have to go to law school. Not come on some random site for advice and get information through a salon owner lol TWO TOTAL DIFFERENT THINGS.

So please, I can go on and on about why the two are different. So stop trying to make excuses.


I don't mind being corrected if I do post inaccurate comments on a thread. However, most threads that I comment on are opinionated based.

The tanning thread that I commented on and told the girl she should do self tanning. Cheer dad questioned me
On what that was like he didn't know. He thought I didn't know what I was talking about. So instead of asking the poster or quoting someone else, he does it to me In hopes that he would some how insult me. But it didn't work because I knew what I was talking about.

If he's truly indeed a Cheer dad which I know he is no doubt, then he knows good darn and well what self tanning is. That's a prime example of you guys trying to stir up the pot because you feel some sort of empowerment against me and love to bully me.

Like I said, you'll never admit when you're wrong for a lot of things on here. Especially stuff towards me.
Not just you, but everyone who has made a way to say rude and snarky things against me. The parent bored is probably full of insults against me.

 

[Fierce_Elite]

Why couldn't you do this some where I can see?

Did I ever say that parent advice was inaccurate? No. So don't put words in my mouth if that's what you're trying to do.

Yes, colleges do just have one program for business however, when you get into a specific industry don't you have to take separate classes? Yes you do.


For a Salon... You have to go to a cosmetologist school. If you'd like to open your own salon you have to take business classes. But in order to run a salon, you still have to go to that COSMETOLOGY SCHOOL. The one that teaches you not only about hair and makeup, but also state board requirements and such.


If you want a Cheer gym, you have to go to a business school. Yes. But that only helps to a certain point. Depending on what type of gym you actually want to run or program, you need to go through a certification process through USASF and it is as well highly recommended that you'll need to attend regular regional meetings.

If you want to become a lawyer you have to go to law school. Not come on some random site for advice and get information through a salon owner lol TWO TOTAL DIFFERENT THINGS.

So please, I can go on and on about why the two are different. So stop trying to make excuses.


I don't mind being corrected if I do post inaccurate comments on a thread. However, most threads that I comment on are opinionated based.

The tanning thread that I commented on and told the girl she should do self tanning. Cheer dad questioned me
On what that was like he didn't know. He thought I didn't know what I was talking about. So instead of asking the poster or quoting someone else, he does it to me In hopes that he would some how insult me. But it didn't work because I knew what I was talking about.

If he's truly indeed a Cheer dad which I know he is no doubt, then he knows good darn and well what self tanning is. That's a prime example of you guys trying to stir up the pot because you feel some sort of empowerment against me and love to bully me.

Like I said, you'll never admit when you're wrong for a lot of things on here. Especially stuff towards me.
Not just you, but everyone who has made a way to say rude and snarky things against me. The parent bored is probably full of insults against me.

 

[Fierce_Elite]

Didn't mean to quote my self btw. I'm on my phone and tried to correct spell check errors. But whatever

 

[InfinitiElite]

@Fierce_Elite one thing you will learn as you grow is that no, you don't have to be in a certain industry before being able to own a successful business in it. Successful business owners know how to run a business regardless of what industry its in. Why are they successful in numerous industries? They know how to hire the right people. That's the difference between people who own "normal" businesses and people who want to own cheer gyms and cheer programs. Many in this industry feel that they will be awesome owners because they are good coaches and they feel like they could do it better, when in reality coaching and owning are two different animals. I have coached and I have owned a cheer program so I can speak from experience. I have also owned two other businesses. My first business that I owned was a marketing company, did I know anything about marketing? No, but I thought because I worked as a spokesmodel for a marketing company, and saw everything they did wrong that I could do it better. Was I successful? I made money for a few years, and then sold it off. I wouldn't call it super successful though since I didn't see myself being able to grow the business past the few years that I owned it. This is what these "cheer moms" as you keep calling them are telling you. Just because you coach doesn't mean you can own. You keep saying that you are taking a step back and reading the treads, but are you? Because if you where you would learn that a lot of the people you are insulting are incredibly intelligent successful people that you could learn a lot from. I myself have learned just as much from the moms and dads in my program as I did from my business classes. Why? Because they have been there and they have already made the mistakes that I was making. Owning a program is a business, and until you or anyone else looking to open one realizes that, you will never be a successful business owner.

 

[Pebbles49]

:cheering::wham:Wait a minute! You are only 18 years old... I have to say, after roaming this Earth for an half century (psst-50 years)... My God, what are you waiting on? I know, you have a good 4-5 failures to learn from, get out there NOW and start this business...

 

[Fierce_Elite]

@Fierce_Elite one thing you will learn as you grow is that no, you don't have to be in a certain industry before being able to own a successful business in it. Successful business owners know how to run a business regardless of what industry its in. Why are they successful in numerous industries? They know how to hire the right people. That's the difference between people who own "normal" businesses and people who want to own cheer gyms and cheer programs. Many in this industry feel that they will be awesome owners because they are good coaches and they feel like they could do it better, when in reality coaching and owning are two different animals. I have coached and I have owned a cheer program so I can speak from experience. I have also owned two other businesses. My first business that I owned was a marketing company, did I know anything about marketing? No, but I thought because I worked as a spokesmodel for a marketing company, and saw everything they did wrong that I could do it better. Was I successful? I made money for a few years, and then sold it off. I wouldn't call it super successful though since I didn't see myself being able to grow the business past the few years that I owned it. This is what these "cheer moms" as you keep calling them are telling you. Just because you coach doesn't mean you can own. You keep saying that you are taking a step back and reading the treads, but are you? Because if you where you would learn that a lot of the people you are insulting are incredibly intelligent successful people that you could learn a lot from. I myself have learned just as much from the moms and dads in my program as I did from my business classes. Why? Because they have been there and they have already made the mistakes that I was making. Owning a program is a business, and until you or anyone else looking to open one realizes that, you will never be a successful business owner.

Really not trying to be rude to you, but please, do not get into this. I will believe what I continue to believe. What I posted just recently is in fact indeed correct. But because its me, people are going to resent it. Thank you for your input, but please stay of this conversation because you have nothing to do with it.

 

[Fierce_Elite]

:cheering::wham:Wait a minute! You are only 18 years old... I have to say, after roaming this Earth for an half century (psst-50 years)... My God, what are you waiting on? I know, you have a good 4-5 failures to learn from, get out there NOW and start this business...

I'm not 18. Please don't make assumptions. Where I have ever said I was 18? Stop making assumptions.

 

[amy1k]

I'm not 18. Please don't make assumptions. Where I have ever said I was 18? Stop making assumptions.

*whispers* she's not talking to you.