All-Star Need Help Registering My Team For Competition

[Deleted member 41136]

My flyweights are getting ready for a competition in December. The coordinator came around with registration forms. My struggle is over what division to put them in. They all have their back handsprings but they are not that advanced with stunts. If only they had level 1.5!

 

[yooolizzi]

Backhand springs would be level two, so you don't have to worry about level five at all. If you do rec, you can get away with doing lower level stunts and handsprings.

 

[dawgshow]

Backhand springs would be level two, so you don't have to worry about level five at all. If you do rec, you can get away with doing lower level stunts and handsprings.

Not level 5. Level 1 and a half.

 

[dawgshow]

OP: what affects the score sheet more, stunts or tumbling? I would suspect stunts but I'm not familiar with the term flyweights so I'm not sure if this is all star cheer. If that's true then I'd compete down to be successful overall.

 

[Deleted member 41136]

OP: what affects the score sheet more, stunts or tumbling? I would suspect stunts but I'm not familiar with the term flyweights so I'm not sure if this is all star cheer. If that's true then I'd compete down to be successful overall.

Sorry about the whole flyweight thing! We used to be a rec program but we are now part of a highly competitive all star squad. I meant mini level and you are probably right about the competing down thing.

 

[Cheer Dad]

Sorry about the whole flyweight thing! We used to be a rec program but we are now part of a highly competitive all star squad. I meant mini level and you are probably right about the competing down thing.

If you are part of a highly competitive all star program I will make the assumption they are also very well established so my advice is to seek out the advice of the more experienced coaches and owners in your gym to see how they would like you to represent their program.

 

[cheerforeverever]

Even level 1 will require complex stunts (though not extended as high) to score well. "Tic tocks", highly creative transitions, 2 manning, etc. in level 1 are all quite popular. In level 2, the stunts are extended higher, but it is less subjective to creativity/out of the box stunting that teams will come out of nowhere with in level 1, in my opinion. Level 1 is all about walkovers as well......if you have girls that can do a BHS but not a backwalkover, that is something to think about. The biggest thing would probably be if the girls are able to use proper technique for stunting above prep level though. If they cannot hit squad extensions ( at least from a prep - press up to extension), that will be an issue in level 2.

Generally this is what you will see a jist of in the top of each division, give or take.............
Level 1:
Stunts- 1 man or two man from knee, 1 or two man from waist level, preps, straddles, mix in some non release "tic tocks",1/4 ups, and A LOT of creativity.......
Pyramid- two preps with a 2 leg extension in middle, various transitions so you hit at least 2 structures
Tumbling - Backwalkover/ front walkover combinations, RO backwalkover combos
Jumps: jump combo to forward or backward roll

Level 2:
Stunts- 1/2 up to one leg prep level, non release"tick tock" at prep level, 1/2 up to extension, 1 or 2 manned one leg at prep level
Pyramid- front walkover up, 2 preps with 1 leg extended stunt braced in middle, various transitions so you hit at least 2 structures, creativity
Baskets - Straight Ride
Tumbling- standing Backwalkover to BHS, squad RO BHS, walkover to RO BHS combos
Jumps: jump combo to (pause) standing BHS (pause) BHS

Example:
Lv 1 Kentucky Elite Allstars - Sabers Youth Level 1 - YouTube
Lv 2 Kentucky Elite Allstars- Pumas Youth Level 2 - YouTube

 

[Deleted member 41136]

If you are part of a highly competitive all star program I will make the assumption they are also very well established so my advice is to seek out the advice of the more experienced coaches and owners in your gym to see how they would like you to represent their program.

Sorry! I didn't even think to ask the owner and such.

 

[Deleted member 41136]

Even level 1 will require complex stunts (though not extended as high) to score well. "Tic tocks", highly creative transitions, 2 manning, etc. in level 1 are all quite popular. In level 2, the stunts are extended higher, but it is less subjective to creativity/out of the box stunting that teams will come out of nowhere with in level 1, in my opinion. Level 1 is all about walkovers as well......if you have girls that can do a BHS but not a backwalkover, that is something to think about. The biggest thing would probably be if the girls are able to use proper technique for stunting above prep level though. If they cannot hit squad extensions ( at least from a prep - press up to extension), that will be an issue in level 2.

Generally this is what you will see a jist of in the top of each division, give or take.............
Level 1:
Stunts- 1 man or two man from knee, 1 or two man from waist level, preps, straddles, mix in some non release "tic tocks",1/4 ups, and A LOT of creativity.......
Pyramid- two preps with a 2 leg extension in middle, various transitions so you hit at least 2 structures
Tumbling - Backwalkover/ front walkover combinations, RO backwalkover combos
Jumps: jump combo to forward or backward roll

Level 2:
Stunts- 1/2 up to one leg prep level, non release"tick tock" at prep level, 1/2 up to extension, 1 or 2 manned one leg at prep level
Pyramid- front walkover up, 2 preps with 1 leg extended stunt braced in middle, various transitions so you hit at least 2 structures, creativity
Baskets - Straight Ride
Tumbling- standing Backwalkover to BHS combo, squad RO BHS, walkover to RO BHS combos
Jumps: jump combo to (pause) standing BHS (pause) BHS

Example:
Lv 1 Kentucky Elite Allstars - Sabers Youth Level 1 - YouTube
Lv 2 Kentucky Elite Allstars- Pumas Youth Level 2 - YouTube

Thank you for this list! I will definitely share this with my other coaches.

 

[retiredl5cheer]

Sorry! I didn't even think to ask the owner and such.

Typically the owner is the one making decisions on that. Also, do you have a routine choreographed already?

 

[12stepCheermom]

I'm confused. The routine you've been practicing....what level is it choreographed to?

 

[Deleted member 41136]

I'm confused. The routine you've been practicing....what level is it choreographed to?

We practiced with the level two tumbling knowing that they have all level one tumbling and level one stunts

 

[Cheer Dad]

We practiced with the level two tumbling knowing that they have all level one tumbling and level one stunts

That makes no sense. How do you practice for level 2 if they are all with level 1 skills?

Makes me question the gym.

 

[12stepCheermom]

We practiced with the level two tumbling knowing that they have all level one tumbling and level one stunts

Then that is your answer. If it's choreographed to level one, that's the division you put them in. I'd also suggest stopping all back handsprings when you're practicing the routine or they'll develop muscle memory and someone will throw one during competition without thinking about it.

 

[mamabear]

Then that is your answer. If it's choreographed to level one, that's the division you put them in. I'd also suggest stopping all back handsprings when you're practicing the routine or they'll develop muscle memory and someone will throw one during competition without thinking about it.

Yep! Throwing handsprings by mistake happened twice to us last season. Luckily it was only "caught" once. I do worry about it this season too, since half the team either has it or is very very close.
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Do you have access to the event's scoring grid? Is it a USASF sanctioned all star comp or is it local? If it is local, you really need to study it, especially if it is a comp that also caters to rec. The lines between level 1 and 2 can be quite blured with private comps.