All-Star New Iasf Rules

[HeatUniqueJ]

I saw someone say let’s start a petition. And it seems dramatic, but is it??? Do you guys have any idea how many people would sign this including signatures from teams and organizations as a whole. Maybe it’ll be something to put in front of their face so they realize how wrong this is.

Other countries are even saying they feel like it’s being dumbed down as though they aren’t capable of safely executing these skills.

I saw the other comment about there being no point to level 6 and now I’m curious if someone can tell me the differences NOW (with the new rules) between int’l 5 & 6?

Lvl 6 can still do all the Flipping skills like Ticks and Layouts but no fulls, grazierS, Arabians or anything that involves a twisting skill

 

[chardaeeeee]

Thankful I cheered international when I did... what a time.

 

[Jule]

Wow, I'm speechless.

 

[Lablover]

Thankfully Varsity announced that the scoring will not be changed for their competitions this season, so NCA, UCA, Cheersport for example will follow last seasons rules

So international teams can compete all season and even get a bid to Worlds with their current routine and then have to completely change their routine for Worlds? That’s crazy.

 

[TealArmySparkle]

So international teams can compete all season and even get a bid to Worlds with their current routine and then have to completely change their routine for Worlds? That’s crazy.

This is the IASF though. Having common sense is not in their possession of skills.

 

[FloridaFlya]

Lvl 6 can still do all the Flipping skills like Ticks and Layouts but no fulls, grazierS, Arabians or anything that involves a twisting skill

Okay thank you!!!

 

[kayemm]

Overall, the thing that is sticking with me is how this is completely slowing down the development of cheerleading as a sport internationally. Where is the incentive to progress or learn new skills if you can't compete them? I've never competed at worlds, and most likely never will be on a team that does, but if I did go I would want to compete a full high skilled routine against the best of the best. Not the best of the best performing watered down skills.

It also makes me feel sad for athletes in the US who have maybe competed since they were tiny, and then are still competing allstar as adults on an IO5 or IO6 team being told they are unable to perform a skill they have potentially been able to do since they were kids and not having their years of hard work recognised. Where is the motivation to keep going?

 

[quitthedrama]

So international teams can compete all season and even get a bid to Worlds with their current routine and then have to completely change their routine for Worlds? That’s crazy.

This is my biggest issue. It will now take a major different skill set to earn a bid than it will to compete at Worlds. I'm interested to hear from coaches and owners who have International 5 and 6 teams to see what their thoughts are.

 

[catlady]

While I was taking in my morning coffee I thought I would read up on the IASF on their website. In the two minutes it took to read all the information on their site, my personal favorite was their "Vision" and the last line I underlined.

ALL STAR CHEER RULES
Click here to request a copy of the Safety Rules and Guidelines for All Star Cheerleading.

Credentialing
The IASF is currently working on the internal structure for International Coaches Credentialing and will have an update soon.

LEGALITY OFFICIALS
The IASF will list all of the current Legality Officials from each country as soon as we put that list together. Check back soon.

WORLDS ...literally nothing to read.

VISION
With the help of the global cheer and dance community, the IASF will help provide common ground for all countries involved in All Star Cheer and Dance. The IASF will provide clear understanding of rules, a consistent credentialing platform and opportunities for growth of the sport.

 

[mamabear]

I think it is time to create a Cheer Alliance/Majors style invite only, end of season, Worlds style experience for the International teams.

 

[Keep_Believing]

Know an athlete who said he's quitting, not worth killing his body all season for a bid to go compete a "joke" level at Worlds. :(

 

[OnceUponACheerleader]

The ONLY logic/reasoning I see behind this rule is because no-name allstars from a remote land far far away doesn't have the training & coaching to safely execute a twisting basket - and don't pretend you don't know what I am talking about. We have all seen some janky a** basket tosses that are barely caught by the flyers limbs as her head comes inches from the mat at worlds. It happens.

BUT WITH THAT SAID:
The IASF (& USASF) are not dealing with the problem, instead they are trying to band-aid solution. The problem doesn't lie in the difficulty of these skills and international teams ability to safely execute them. The problem lies in no official level registration. Craptastic allstars volunteer cheer mom/ coach can chose to register her precious snowflakes team in what ever division she chooses. She can choreograph a routine where the athletes are put at risk to compete skills they are not ready to perform. Go to a small bid competition, win an at large, and compete their unsafe & terrifying-to-watch basket toss at the world championships - while the rest of the crowd sits there and questions how that team got a bid in the first place.

It has been talked about before - and I think it should be seriously considered by the governing bodies of cheerleading. LEVEL REGISTRATION. Like gymnastics - athletes need to level-up/ score out in order to compete the next level up. Now, I understand that there are a lot more nuances to consider in implementing a system like this in cheerleading as opposed to gymnastics, given the team-structure of the sport, but something needs to be implemented.

This rule is not keeping international athletes safe, it is encouraging coaches to allow athletes to compete in a division they are not ready to compete in. It is penalizing true level 5/6 athletes and teams that have trained hard to reach that level.

If you ask me - it was a decision based on money. The IASF realizes that there are athletes at the world championships whom should not be competing the skills they're competing. But if IASF were to crack-down and ensure only level appropriate athletes & teams are competing - many teams would not qualify in the first place.
Less teams qualifying = less registration
Less registration = Less entrance fees paid (decrease in consumption of vendors/hotels/etc.....)
Less entrance fees paid = less profit for the governing bodies
So to compromise the IASF did what they had to do to try and keep competing athletes safe while ensuring they don't lose $$$ off their bottom line.

 

[luv2cheer92]

Know an athlete who said he's quitting, not worth killing his body all season for a bid to go compete a "joke" level at Worlds. :(

That makes me sad. As awful as this is, there is so much more to cheer than Worlds.

Just means that NCA will remain the most prestigious comp as it always has...

 

[123jump4!]

If you ask me - it was a decision based on money. The IASF realizes that there are athletes at the world championships whom should not be competing the skills they're competing. But if IASF were to crack-down and ensure only level appropriate athletes & teams are competing - many teams would not qualify in the first place.
Less teams qualifying = less registration
Less registration = Less entrance fees paid (decrease in consumption of vendors/hotels/etc.....)
Less entrance fees paid = less profit for the governing bodies
So to compromise the IASF did what they had to do to try and keep competing athletes safe while ensuring they don't lose $$$ off their bottom line.

If it's about money then all the good International teams need to boycott Worlds. And have their own end of season comp like has been suggested. I agree with others, the whole thing is ridiculous, hope it gets changed back to normal again!

 

[Miialovescheer]

I dont kow how the talk is going in sweden right now since im not a heerlearer/coach and never have been either. but i guess that some teams are not happy about it. I mean we are JUST catching up (we got our first medal in IO6 2017) and i dont really now how this will affect us. the tumbling thing mighct e a good idea atleast with the fulls and doubles being scored the same since teams are still not really there in tumling yet ut if we can get a medal with the old rules im sure that we dont need these new ones. this just puts international cheer in a pretty bad light. yeah sure the european teams are not exactly as good as the american but we are getting there and i sure hope this is not going to affect badly on teams but i think it will. i can see athletes concentrating on ICU. but i dont know. i think im still in chock.