All-Star Summit 2019

[emo_wifey]

The SSC5R from CP's gym is moving to finals!! Tribe Cheer Nighthawks!

So for schedule, is it WC in reverse order and then semis in reverse order?

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[Knowcheering]

I gotta laugh at them using the Varsity scoresheet for an event with this many teams. The raw scores are so similar it's as if everyone is doing the same routine when in fact they are often quite different.

So many teams are practically tied, you wonder if the placements/scores really mean anything and if the judges even know what order they're ranking the teams. If you're behind by 0.01 or 0.03 what even is that? A fake eyelash being out of place? In Youth 1, the scores are like 96.63, 96.48, 96.48, 96.26, 96.26, 96.26, 96.11. So practically a 7-way tie. I wouldn't want to be a judge here.

 

[tojofasho]

I gotta laugh at them using the Varsity scoresheet for an event with this many teams. The raw scores are so similar it's as if everyone is doing the same routine when in fact they are often quite different.

So many teams are practically tied, you wonder if the placements/scores really mean anything and if the judges even know what order they're ranking the teams. If you're behind by 0.03 or 0.1, what even is that? A fake eyelash being out of place? In Youth 1, the scores are like 96.63, 96.48, 96.48, 96.26, 96.26, 96.26, 96.11. So practically a 7-way tie. I wouldn't want to be a judge here.

We had a team miss finals by .02 today...LIKE HOW?! Definitely know we aren't the only gym experiencing that right now either, we've heard multiple people expressing similar disappointment.

 

[Belinda]

I gotta laugh at them using the Varsity scoresheet for an event with this many teams. The raw scores are so similar it's as if everyone is doing the same routine when in fact they are often quite different.

So many teams are practically tied, you wonder if the placements/scores really mean anything and if the judges even know what order they're ranking the teams. If you're behind by 0.03 or 0.1, what even is that? A fake eyelash being out of place? In Youth 1, the scores are like 96.63, 96.48, 96.48, 96.26, 96.26, 96.26, 96.11. So practically a 7-way tie. I wouldn't want to be a judge here.

Throwback to a few years ago, when the team I coached lost JAMfest by 0.4.. Because of earrings, which we specifically asked to be taken out and not taped about 17 times. Would've won by .1 otherwise [emoji2360] lesson learned lol!

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[MomMomMamaMom]

I gotta laugh at them using the Varsity scoresheet for an event with this many teams. The raw scores are so similar it's as if everyone is doing the same routine when in fact they are often quite different.

So many teams are practically tied, you wonder if the placements/scores really mean anything and if the judges even know what order they're ranking the teams. If you're behind by 0.03 or 0.1, what even is that? A fake eyelash being out of place? In Youth 1, the scores are like 96.63, 96.48, 96.48, 96.26, 96.26, 96.26, 96.11. So practically a 7-way tie. I wouldn't want to be a judge here.

I’m actually kind of ok with this. I like that their scoring the routines rather than ranking them at least.

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

What is lowest age band for Summit? Youth?

What is usually the end of year comp for your Minis then? I know some are done after NCA.

 

[Melissa Starke]

What is lowest age band for Summit? Youth?

What is usually the end of year comp for your Minis then? I know some are done after NCA.

I would guess that quite a few mini aged teams go to The one/us finals for end of season competitions.

 

[Belinda]

I'm not on board with this new trend of not even wearing any sort of hair accessory, not even a hair tie/head band.. Hair flying everywhere would be a safety violation and deduction in Sweden.

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[Knowcheering]

I’m actually kind of ok with this. I like that their scoring the routines rather than ranking them at least.

The nature of judged sports is to make comparisons. And it's harder to make comparisons if there's no room to do so and a lot of teams are scoring practically the same thing. Teams are getting separated by ridiculously small margins like 0.02 or 0.03 that don't really mean anything.

College gymnastics has complained of something similar where they judge on a 10 point scale, and just about every routine scores above 9.7. They end up with a lot of ties and questionable rankings because they're trying to score dozens of gymnasts within a minuscule 0.3 range, which is virtually impossible. Sometimes a gymnast will get a 9.95 and a gymnast later on will be noticeably stronger, but there's no room to give her a higher score unless they award a perfect 10. The job of the judges is very difficult when the range is that small. The cheerleading scoresheet is similar where it feels like they're scoring way too many teams within a small 2 or 3 point range on a 100 point scale.

You just hope the judges know what they're doing with all these tiny decimal points and can get it right so the results make sense.

 

[tojofasho]

I'm flying out tomorrow before the celebration party and won't be using my wrist band, figured I'd offer it to any of my fierceboard fam since it'll otherwise go to waste. If anybody is staying at Allstar Movies or will be at the competition venue today between like 7-8:30 and wants one for a parent/friend/etc. just shoot me a message and it's yours for free. Promise I'm not a murderer!

 

[oncecoolcoachnowmom]

I do not watch a lot of Summit but I was just on for a little bit and caught a Junior 2 team that did amazing!

South Bay Divas I think the team name is Crystal?

Also really impressed with Arizona Element Elite's J2 Titanium!

 

[MomMomMamaMom]

The nature of judged sports is to make comparisons. And it's harder to make comparisons if there's no room to do so and a lot of teams are scoring practically the same thing. Teams are getting separated by ridiculously small margins like 0.02 or 0.03 that don't really mean anything.

College gymnastics has complained of something similar where they judge on a 10 point scale, and just about every routine scores above 9.7. They end up with a lot of ties and questionable rankings because they're trying to score dozens of gymnasts within a minuscule 0.3 range, which is virtually impossible. Sometimes a gymnast will get a 9.95 and a gymnast later on will be noticeably stronger, but there's no room to give her a higher score unless they award a perfect 10. The job of the judges is very difficult when the range is that small. The cheerleading scoresheet is similar where it feels like they're scoring way too many teams within a small 2 or 3 point range on a 100 point scale.

You just hope the judges know what they're doing with all these tiny decimal points and can get it right so the results make sense.

I get it, I just think that comparative scoring is more biased. I’d rather see tie breakers than judges ranking... but it is a matter of opinion completely.

I’m also super curious if anyone knows a few things. Why haven’t they posted SSC4.2 semis yet? Does anyone know who moved on? And also does anyone know what happened to/with RS Red Hot Chili Peppers in sscr5?

 

[luv2cheer92]

I get it, I just think that comparative scoring is more biased. I’d rather see tie breakers than judges ranking... but it is a matter of opinion completely.

I’m also super curious if anyone knows a few things. Why haven’t they posted SSC4.2 semis yet? Does anyone know who moved on? And also does anyone know what happened to/with RS Red Hot Chili Peppers in sscr5?

They didn't finish posting some of yesterday's scores/placements until about an hour ago or so. Not sure what takes some divisions so long or if there's any reason for it.

The lights went off during Chili Peppers performance.

 

[MomMomMamaMom]

They didn't finish posting some of yesterday's scores/placements until about an hour ago or so. Not sure what takes some divisions so long or if there's any reason for it.

The lights went off during Chili Peppers performance.

Oh man, that’s too bad. It looked like they didn’t make it to finals...what a shame if the lights affected them. I haven’t really seen them this year, but I’ve definitely enjoyed their performances in the past.

 

[Belinda]

Top three in international j1 all being European, and top three in j2 being Asian, I'm loving this!

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