All-Star Uca All-stars Nationals 2012

[cupieqt]

You're correct with going for the UCA look.

I would've bet money on it. I would do the same with my team.

 

[xpressjag]

Orange had 3 points in deductions day 1 and were behind by only 1.89. with day 2 being 75% they were able to move back up to 1st! Are you confused because of how Angels only moved up 1 spot? because i am too! I thought atleast 3rd!

I love 25/75 so much better than 50/50. I think this is one reason why I like Varsity events much better than Jam Brands.

 

[mia4life06]

Question for all those who watched the medium all girl division, did you believe the placements were correct? i wasnt at the competition and didn't watch any videos but according to twitter, almost all the girls on diamonds felt they were "ripped off". just wanted to gather some peoples thoughts on this.

I would so agree with this everyone but FCA had deduction in there routine and they were major deductions

 

[Angelica]

I am in ah of the ECE program. After their J5 performed I had one of those "this is why I love this sport" moments. So amazing & their new uniforms are flawless!! Kudos to those coaches !

 

[worldchampME]

Disagree. This coach was looking for answers from unbiased/emotionally attached people. This coach was looking for critique positive and negative for the good of his teams. Judging from the comments of late it takes guts to post period. It is always important for the results to be correct local regional, to bid giving nationals, to worlds. What I read from the CF coach is UCA was important to his team... Something (though i cannot speak for you ) worlds bids cannot put icing on. I didn't read one ounce of ungratefulness I love his post because I've been there so many times and i love it because i miss the old days where each individual nationals win was a stand alone victory that could not be diminished in any way by anything later in the season. For the life of me i cannot understand why event producers who have worked tooth and nail
to develop their brand, determine their niche, and build up the industry with their creativity put up with the way our current model allows such hard fought wins such as a UCA title to be even slightly diminished. I didn't hear sour grapes in this post, I heard a request for understanding.

I'm on A plane from my 5th straight back to back nationals event.. And with reluctance I'm gonna answer his post... Please
Don't bite with posts that seek to be negative

In short the varsity sheet in my experience was not judged with enough difference granted in any category to outweigh even the slightest mistake. More to your question: senior elite's a score jumped 2 whole points days two at NCA (granted the Routine had a great deal more energy) but on the piece of paper the 2 whole points were gained due to the addition of 7 pike open baskets and a pike jump in addition to maddie's stunt. Incidentally, I laughed with Joelle three hours before medium all girl competed at UCA (she came into the arena right at the pike open part and thought we were a senior 3 team). If WC added baskets = it is likely that had an effect.

Thank you very much for clarification, and the back up in a situation I seem to occur very often with certain posters.

 

[lakerfantlc]

Disagree. This coach was looking for answers from unbiased/emotionally attached people. This coach was looking for critique positive and negative for the good of his teams. Judging from the comments of late it takes guts to post period. It is always important for the results to be correct local regional, to bid giving nationals, to worlds. What I read from the CF coach is UCA was important to his team... Something (though i cannot speak for you ) worlds bids cannot put icing on. I didn't read one ounce of ungratefulness I love his post because I've been there so many times and i love it because i miss the old days where each individual nationals win was a stand alone victory that could not be diminished in any way by anything later in the season. For the life of me i cannot understand why event producers who have worked tooth and nail
to develop their brand, determine their niche, and build up the industry with their creativity put up with the way our current model allows such hard fought wins such as a UCA title to be even slightly diminished. I didn't hear sour grapes in this post, I heard a request for understanding.

I'm on A plane from my 5th straight back to back nationals event.. And with reluctance I'm gonna answer his post... Please
Don't bite with posts that seek to be negative

In short the varsity sheet in my experience was not judged with enough difference granted in any category to outweigh even the slightest mistake. More to your question: senior elite's a score jumped 2 whole points days two at NCA (granted the Routine had a great deal more energy) but on the piece of paper the 2 whole points were gained due to the addition of 7 pike open baskets and a pike jump in addition to maddie's stunt. Incidentally, I laughed with Joelle three hours before medium all girl competed at UCA (she came into the arena right at the pike open part and thought we were a senior 3 team). If WC added baskets = it is likely that had an effect.

The offensive thing wasn't a question from a coach confused...it was the reference of his full paid bid being a "sugar coating" in make up for an undeserved place? I am a parent and would NEVER assume how or what a coach feels...I've seen the coaches job and don't want it...I think they are all underpaid....I do however think the sugar coat comment would have been better left to his private thoughts....again...IMO

 

[lakerfantlc]

Thank you very much for clarification, and the back up in a situation I seem to occur very often with certain posters.

Please don't pretend you don't respond the same way to "certain posters"....btw...again I congratulate you on winning the cash (just like I did in Long Beach) and good luck to you and your teams at Worlds

 

[worldchampME]

I am in ah of the ECE program. After their J5 performed I had one of those "this is why I love this sport" moments. So amazing & their new uniforms are flawless!! Kudos to those coaches !

I couldn't be more happy being a part of Action Spirit Staff and a part of ECE's success! These teams were phenomenal this weekend!

 

[Angelica]

I love 25/75 so much better than 50/50. I think this is one reason why I like Varsity events much better than Jam Brands.

I agree. When it's 25/75 I feel like everyone's replaceable and day one really doesnt define you....& your biggest competition is the score sheet.

Be thankful people. The teams that won, earned it. I don't believe anyone deserves first. I'd much rather take "any kind" of bid to worlds over first place any day IMO.

 

[crazyredhead]

Because when you name the team, even if you "censor" (which you did poorly) the athlete's names directly, it reflects negatively on the gym. I know multiple people who have been on diamonds/FCA or are on diamonds/FCA and they would have never posted those things to a social networking account. I know Jen (and multiple FCA parents) would never have approved of those things being posted online, either. We've had the discussion about this on the boards before. You can get the message across without using names. Reiterating the tweets like that makes you just as classless as the athletes who posted them in the first place. Those are the opinions of those indiviudual girls, not the team.

FALSE! As Judge Judy says if its on the internet its free for us to do what we want with it. The girls posted it, we discussed it. Just like we post and discuss everything else. The girls are of senior age who should know better therefore they know how it makes their gym look.

 

[crazyredhead]

My issue wasn't with what the girls tweeted. By all means, they were wrong to tweet it and I would NEVER defend the words that they wrote. I've always been a firm believer that the team that the judges pick to win deserved the win, and if you're a sore loser about it then you deserved to lose even more. But the original poster said that those were the views of the entire Diamonds team. That was completely untrue and is wrong to insinuate. There were other people that were calling the girls inappropriate things and making fun of them. Is that any better? To bully the bully?

If I take some of the most opinionated cheerleaders from your organization immediately after a controversial loss to a huge rival, then ask them what they think of that rival, is that a reflection of the entire California Allstars organization? Are 4 people on one of your best level 5 team's opinions the opinions of your entire organization? I'm sure not. The girls in question have apologized and congratulated Ody, Suns, and all the other bid winners.

Also false. What was said was "on twitter almost all the girls" nowhere does it suggest they said the entire diamonds team.

 

[10Kdiamond]

The twitter pages posted were falsely accussing the diamonds of what really happened. Yes some of the diamonds were angry about placing, but the majority of the tweets were toward another team in our area making fun of our placing. Rude comments from former gym members later apologized, but at the time we were all fire up and then angry at girl who we thought were our friends. We congratulate sun and every other team that will be in our worlds division. Sorry for the confusion and good luck to everyone at worlds!

 

[socratesofcheer]

I have a question..
If a team doesn't have the most amount of difficulty in a division compared to their competitors... how can they have the highest raw score? Things that make you hmmm..

On the varsity score sheet execution is a large percentage of the score. Therefore, an excellent execution team may have a higher raw score than a difficult team

 

[Mom Jeans]

worldchampME, I think its great that although you got the paid bid, you still question your placement. I think it shows that you worked your tail off to interpret a score sheet and bring a win to your team. I've seen many times where people say that we've strayed from the actual competition part just focus on bids and even with the coveted prize you are questioning if something was right. I think that is pretty rare.

Makes me love that (your) team even more

 

[worldchampME]

worldchampME, I think its great that although you got the paid bid, you still question your placement. I think it shows that you worked your tail off to interpret a score sheet and bring a win to your team. I've seen many times where people say that we've strayed from the actual competition part just focus on bids and even with the coveted prize you are questioning if something was right. I think that is pretty rare.

Makes me love that (your) team even more

Well thank you very much for your support. Although the situation may seem like "I wanna win, I want that trophy" but it's not the case, I want justification. I would want the same thing if I was in 4th place but knew I deserved second, I want to know why. We're not all perfect here, we're all still learning and learning from each other is extremely important to me especially since I consider coaches like myself, the future. So thank you for your open-mindedness. I leave everyone with this quote...

"Coaches are like candles, we consume ourselves, to provide light in the path for others"

I just want what's best for my kids.