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Wow Lo Sal in first is super interesting. I am now excited to see them this year!
Yeah that’s VERY interesting. Slso has A LOT to lose on both coasts.
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Wow Lo Sal in first is super interesting. I am now excited to see them this year!
Use this thread to discuss regionals, teams to watch out for, and of course nationals when it rolls around. Videos can also be posted in here and in the video thread.
Good luck to everyone competing at regionals! (I'll edit this when nationals comes.)
Regional events for this
year: https://varsity.com/uploads/editor/...itions/UCA_NHSCC_CompListings_Online_2018.pdf
Performance orders/regional results (orders and results are usually posted a week before and after the event respectively.
Varsity Portal
Bluegrass and Northeast regional will also be streamed through varsity services and if it's like other events you'll be able to view the videos for free a week later.
I’m itching for videos of Westlake and United in super large D1. I saw a tidbit of Westlake’s routine on their IG and was impressed. If the rest of the routine holds up to those six seconds I saw, they are out to take their title back. Hopefully they learned their lesson from Houston taking first place out of nowhere last year: work smarter, not harder.
Seriously, I don’t even think Houston thought they’d knock out both United and Westlake for the win in a single competition. My jaw fell to the floor when I heard the results. And also, can someone tell me where HarBer came from? Two years ago they were nothing and now they’re shoving their way into that super large D1 top five echelon pretty quick.
Well I personally know one of the coaches from Houston, great coach!
Worked with my team for a few years.. we miss him :)
Where is Harber from ?
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My high school team looked up to Houston a lot in the early aughts. They have a strong history but I think everyone — including me — was expecting first place to go to United or Westlake as had been the trend for the last four years. What an upset!
Har-Ber I think is from AK and finaled in their debut year two years ago, then took second last year. Which must sting for schools like Vestavia that have been stuck in that mid-place limbo for years now.
My high school team looked up to Houston a lot in the early aughts. They have a strong history but I think everyone — including me — was expecting first place to go to United or Westlake as had been the trend for the last four years. What an upset!
Har-Ber I think is from AK and finaled in their debut year two years ago, then took second last year. Which must sting for schools like Vestavia that have been stuck in that mid-place limbo for years now.
Your thoughts are close to the money. Not necessarily catering to TX due to the removal of difficulty, moreso catering to teams that are not typical competition teams or programs that normally do not focus on skill development for competition. Varsity stands to make more money from their existing competitions by inviting teams that normally do not compete at NHSCC due to them not being prepared or not wanting to go there just to lose in competition.Anyone have any thoughts on the new Game Day rubrics and requirements? I have always liked that teams got points for difficulty of skills in the past and now that's gone. I'm from TX and now the rubies match TX UIL State Competition. So, feels like Game Day is catering to TX Teams...Honestly, TX UIL limits so much that the routines all start looking the same. One thing I liked about NHSCC Game Day was that schools were challenged to do more Two Man and Advanced stunts without too many limitations so things were just more exciting and not just extensions and libs.
Thoughts from others?
Your thoughts are close to the money. Not necessarily catering to TX due to the removal of difficulty, moreso catering to teams that are not typical competition teams or programs that normally do not focus on skill development for competition. Varsity stands to make more money from their existing competitions by inviting teams that normally do not compete at NHSCC due to them not being prepared or not wanting to go there just to lose in competition.
I think that the Game Day portion will have a shared affect too where teams that come for Game Day will be motivated to improve and join the competition side. While I worry that this takes the focus off the traditional competitive side and we could see it diminish over time, I know that Varsity and Disney like money so they will want to keep their attendance numbers high and actually not hurt their existing products.
But you are right, the difficulty for Game Day is disappearing and will continue.
Kills me too. If I am watching two teams cheer and they do similar volume/spirit and cheers but one does a straight up and one does a full up, the full up should get rewarded as long as the full up didn't lessen the volume/spirit of the overall cheer.Yes to everything you have said. I have to admit that one of my teams has competed in Game Day since it's beginning and having that difficulty element challenged us to step up the game and improve, but I fear that by taking that out it will be just like in Texas where groups that are doing extensions are overtaking two man libs and full ups. I'm all about clean and spirit and the game day experience, but I'm a firm believer that solid and more advanced should outscore solid and simple any day, but without that on the rubric it won't happen. So, why would anyone want to up their skills? Interested to see what this does to the sport.
Also, another thing we have see in Texas is that schools are getting Bids in Game Day competing in the Small/Medium Game Day, but are now registering as Super Varsity at Nationals. I have a huge problem with that since the rule books says you must qualify in the division you compete in. But when questioned, UCA says that isn't so in Game Day.
It's sadly becoming more a money maker than a talent source.
And with it, some of the prestige of winning a national title.Your thoughts are close to the money. Not necessarily catering to TX due to the removal of difficulty, moreso catering to teams that are not typical competition teams or programs that normally do not focus on skill development for competition. Varsity stands to make more money from their existing competitions by inviting teams that normally do not compete at NHSCC due to them not being prepared or not wanting to go there just to lose in competition.
I think that the Game Day portion will have a shared affect too where teams that come for Game Day will be motivated to improve and join the competition side. While I worry that this takes the focus off the traditional competitive side and we could see it diminish over time, I know that Varsity and Disney like money so they will want to keep their attendance numbers high and actually not hurt their existing products.
But you are right, the difficulty for Game Day is disappearing and will continue.
And with it, some of the prestige of winning a national title.
Your thoughts are close to the money. Not necessarily catering to TX due to the removal of difficulty, moreso catering to teams that are not typical competition teams or programs that normally do not focus on skill development for competition. Varsity stands to make more money from their existing competitions by inviting teams that normally do not compete at NHSCC due to them not being prepared or not wanting to go there just to lose in competition.
I think that the Game Day portion will have a shared affect too where teams that come for Game Day will be motivated to improve and join the competition side. While I worry that this takes the focus off the traditional competitive side and we could see it diminish over time, I know that Varsity and Disney like money so they will want to keep their attendance numbers high and actually not hurt their existing products.
But you are right, the difficulty for Game Day is disappearing and will continue.