All-Star Usasf Major Changes

[ScottyB]

sidenote...do you work for varsity or USASF? Just wondering;)

Used to be a UCA Staffer, now just cheer enthusiast who wants to see cheer taken further into society and into public view so we all get the respect we deserve as cheerleaders

 

[The Sixth]

Yes. Silly thing is, there is profit to be made by requiring tumbling coach certification..."Varsity Brand tumbling credentialing courses and certification."

True, and that's where they should be looking for profits. Areas where it can truly legitimize the sport. But things such as credentialing cost money to implement. Hopefully that IS where they are going eventually. But right now it just looks like, let's make a quick buck by gambling on increased attendance/participation thru skills banning in the meantime.

 

[caobsession]

Although beggars can't be choosers, I still don't agree with the revised rules.

 

[wcdad]

the main difference is they did NOT cap the achievement of the NFL players...ie..telling tom brady that he cannot throw more than 2 touchdown passes per game....putting a limit on how good they can become will kill the sport...years ago the 6 minute mile in running was but only a dream...that has been smashed many times over...we are a free society and governing bodies need to step away from our business and we ALL need to accept that with achievement and success comes risk...if you don’t want you kids taking that risk then get in the truck...go home and sit one the couch!! But please don’t interfere with our right to work hard and be successful...and this would apply to most situations in the world today....end rant

It may not have capped some players like Brady but it capped kick off returners and defensive players.

There are 2 sides to everything

 

[wcdad]

They want you to work hard, they want you to succeed, and they want the sports to grow. But these governing bodies of all sports have to look out for the public view and the perception of injury. 100 years ago there were deaths and catastrophic injuries to football players, so they made changes, added pads/helmets/more rules to enhance the way the game was played and viewed. NASCAR as you mentioned earlier has its own rules for the safety of the particpants, yes they go over 200 mph, but those cars are limited on what they can do to maintain participant safety and overall public satisfaction of how safe the sport is. And now in recent years with the NFL changes, NBA foul rules, redefining of NCAA rules for multiple sports, they are limiting the players for safety to allow these activities to continue. Tom Brady is allowed to throw as many touchdowns as he wants, but the defensive players aren't allowed to tackle as hard as they physically can. Which seems unfair to them right? But paralyzed quarterbacks across the NFL would ruin the sport. Precautions must be made by governing bodies based strictly on data and feedback from the athletes and the public.

Well said

 

[p.o.k.]

Wait what about the 50% + 1 rule/guideline?

 

[AshleeMarie]

I don't care about the image change at all, however I do want to hear from BlueCat Ceacoach Victor Rosario, and Happy Hooper in regards to the tumbling changes...

Happy and the ACE teams stand behind the USASF along with Charlotte All Stars, Stingray All Stars, Midwest Cheer Elite

aceallstars ‏ @aceallstars
New USASF rules are on http://USASF.net!!! Great compromise and allowing coaches/ athletes to have a voice

Midwest Cheer Elite ‏ @mcepanthers
This was a great compromise with the new rules!
Retweeted by aceallstars

Orange Rays ‏ @Orange_Rays
The new rules are up! Hopefully everyone will support the new rules and work hard on some exciting skills for next year.

Charlotte Allstars ‏ @GoCharlotteAS
We are even more supportive of the compromises made by USASF!

 

[AshleeMarie]

It's Varsity's "end of the year" event for levels 1-4 basically. And every team that gets top 3 at a bunch of different competitions get a bid to it. But it's dumb because most of these small local competitions don't even have 3 teams in each division. So everyone ends up with a bid...

ETA: Also, the "bid" only pays for your entry fee. So if EP's started giving out true paid/partial/at-large type bids to some kind of end-of-year event, maybe just maybe, these lower levels would seem more important to athletes and parents and coaches a like and people wouldn't be trying so hard (to the point of injury) to become level 5...

That was All-Levels last year. This year All-Levels has 8 regional events across the country run in conjuction with some of the largest events upcoming before Worlds. You have to go to these 8 All-Levels regionals to get a bid into the Virtual Championship. By limiting it to 8 regional events, there is now more competition and not everyone gets a bid to the Virtual Championship. I'm hoping next year they use this similiar model and go back to the biding process. I like that you can be a Regional Champion and then even the International All-Levels Champion. Plus they get rings this year for winning.

http://varsity.com/event/1587/2012_All_Levels

 

[idrive]

they would love for us ALL to get on the koolaid;)

Instead of just making the koolaid they could have asked what our preference was on flavor....... and mean it.;)

 

[lakerfantlc]

It may not have capped some players like Brady but it capped kick off returners and defensive players.

There are 2 sides to everything

still apples to oranges..they didn't tell brady you are only allowed to throw a 50 yd pass...or you are not allowed to have x amount of tackles etc....they have capped cheer skills..IMHO

 

[wcdad]

still apples to oranges..they didn't tell brady you are only allowed to throw a 50 yd pass...or you are not allowed to have x amount of tackles etc....they have capped cheer skills..IMHO

You are 100% correct, Brady can still throw all the passes he wants and they did not cap his throwing skills. The Defensive Backs and Safeties could argue that the rule changes "capped" there ability to do there job allowing Brady to get more 50 yard passes. A kick off returner will definitely argue that the rules have "caped" their ability to return the ball for a touch down. Both could argue that by being "capped" it effects their pay as they could loose incentives that are built into their contract.

 

[kristenthegreat]

The Sixth - Don't worry. One of the best setters I know was about 5' tall. She overcame her shortness by having the ups of a champion. Went on to play VB for some school in Hawaii. Very talented young lady, she was my setter inspiration.

If safety was SO important- why not at least ADDRESS some type of coach credentialing in the new email?? Do they think we don't know what's up? VARSITY- we know what's going on here, and we're not afraid to call you out on it.

ETA: At least I know that if we all started to chant 'We are the 99%' or a version of 'Banks Got Bailed Out, We Got Sold Out' (which I'm too tired to come up with at 11 pm) at Worlds, it will at LEAST be well-choreographed and well-chanted.

 

[kristenthegreat]

Soooo I went online to look at the Worlds Schedule, and I stumbled upon the coach credentialing page for the USASF:
USASF.NET
Have they always required Practical Field Experience Forms? Or that you must log a minimum of 100 hours? I'm not sure what the credentialing test for coaches has been (I knew a written test)..

 

[BowsnBling]

Soooo I went online to look at the Worlds Schedule, and I stumbled upon the coach credentialing page for the USASF:
USASF.NET
Have they always required Practical Field Experience Forms? Or that you must log a minimum of 100 hours? I'm not sure what the credentialing test for coaches has been (I knew a written test)..

They always asked for a specific amount of hours worked , yet I can't remember the numbers, accumulating the amount was not that difficult for full time staff yet I do feel like not everyone prob did the hours.

 

[indiglow]

Well, since I can't find it anymore, I cannot directly quote. But it was basically that you MAX OUT as long as you have 50%+1 doing the skill (i.e. one to fulls). So even if you have full squad, you don't get rewarded for it any more than the team doing BARELY majority. It's not a "rule" per se...I would say maybe a scoring issue, so might need to be emailed to the EPs regarding it, but it was released the same time as the other "rules" and "guidelines".

It was my impression from reading it that 50% +1 got the team into the highest range box and the more you did moved you up in that range. So if max range was a 9-10, doing 50% +1 would give you a 9 but if you had 90% do the skill you would be closer to the 9.8 mark.

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