All-Star Why Don't Teams Get A Cut Of The Profit.

[Natalia5]

Gyms do get a cut if they attend Varsity competitions.

Can you elaborate on this ^^^ please?

 

[SharkDad]

VARSITY CASE #30: Varsity Plan or Scam? | Cheer Watch Dog

This pretty well explains it.

 

[MissCongeniality]

Can you elaborate on this ^^^ please?

It is the Varsity Family Plan. I would post links but it looks like they're made it less public... 404 error. Basically the more a gym spends (parent money) with Varsity... the bigger percentage they (gym owners) get back. For some of the bigger programs.. this is a lot of money!

ETA: Shark_Dad was posting at the same time... that link explains it. It used to all be detailed on the varsity website too... but that is coming up 404 error now

Pac West joins the Varsity Family Plan and IALC

 

[Michael White]

To the best of my knowledge, collegiate players do not get any money from anything no matter what the sport because then theyd be considered professional players.

They are elligable for scholarships depending on the school and sport. And they can get free gear and free travel/accomodations if the school is willing to pay for it/the team makes a lot of money for the school.

Individual cheerleaders can get paid for endorsements but i dont think its right for athletes to get paid to compete. They are not providing any service to anyone.

I cant even think of many high profile olympians (USA athletes bc thats what im familiar with) who get paid to compete unless they already are involved with a professional sports team (basketball and soccer for example). Michael Phelps, Lochte, Gabby Douglas, Simone Biles, etc all get paid through endorsements and appearences - they dont get paid to compete or to train.

I meant the university would get money from ticket sales. Similar to how a gym (not athletes) might benefit from a competition. Also there have been some great points made in this post and it makes more sense to me now.

 

[Eyes On The Prize]

I meant the university would get money from ticket sales. Similar to how a gym (not athletes) might benefit from a competition. Also there have been some great points made in this post and it makes more sense to me now.

Ahh, i miss understood, apologies.

But yes, like others have mentioned, Varsity gives money back to gyms. IMO, it isnt because of the revenue the teams bring in, its to take their competition out. Definitely not the same as NCAA, though they are just as dastardly as the Big V.

 

[Natalia5]

VARSITY CASE #30: Varsity Plan or Scam? | Cheer Watch Dog

This pretty well explains it.

O... M... G! This info is a very tough pill to swallow. I had to stop reading because it was making me second guess my decision to get into all star cheer. I REALLY did not know what I was getting my kid/ family into. I wish I had found this board and did more research about all star cheerleading, before I made the decision to jump into it.

 

[MissCongeniality]

O... M... G! This info is a very tough pill to swallow. I had to stop reading because it was making me second guess my decision to get into all star cheer. I REALLY did not know what I was getting my kid/ family into. I wish I had found this board and did more research about all star cheerleading, before I made the decision to jump into it.

One of my favorite parts:
8. The gym will be credited the amount of the actual registration fee at events in which hotels, transportation, theme park/sporting event tickets, etc. are included in the total event price. For events/companies offering “all-inclusive pricing” (admission included), 80% of the registration fees will qualify for the rebate.
VARSITY CASE #9: Who are the LOSERS in the Varsity Plan? | Cheer Watch Dog

 

[SharkDad]

@Natalia5 dont give up just yet. It can be a very rewarding activity for your CP if taken in the right context and you let her develop the right learning lessons.

It's smart to be aware of what you are getting as a consumer, and demand proper service for what you pay as well as safety for your child at all times.

 

[DonePaying4Cheer]

Ahh, i miss understood, apologies.

But yes, like others have mentioned, Varsity gives money back to gyms. IMO, it isnt because of the revenue the teams bring in, its to take their competition out. Definitely not the same as NCAA, though they are just as dastardly as the Big V.

It also ties gyms to Varsity as an event producer. I imagine that when Jamfest was a thing, gyms felt "compelled" to limit their attendance rather than incur the wrath of V. and financial losses. I imagine it's the same w/uniforms and practicewear. Buy from us, or get locked out of our events. Uniforms are Varsity's cash cow.

ETA: a friend of mine who got a ride to do ACRO in college was told by her coach to avoid having anything to do with Allstar Cheer. She's afraid that a photo of her attending an event or with a girl in a uniform, might be used for promotional purposes. Then, she might forfeit her scholarship. Even if she received no money, perception is everything. I'm sure the school wants no scent of wrongdoing.

 

[OnceUponACheerleader]

It also ties gyms to Varsity as an event producer. I imagine that when Jamfest was a thing, gyms felt "compelled" to limit their attendance rather than incur the wrath of V. and financial losses. I imagine it's the same w/uniforms and practicewear. Buy from us, or get locked out of our events. Uniforms are Varsity's cash cow.

ETA: a friend of mine who got a ride to do ACRO in college was told by her coach to avoid having anything to do with Allstar Cheer. She's afraid that a photo of her attending an event or with a girl in a uniform, might be used for promotional purposes. Then, she might forfeit her scholarship. Even if she received no money, perception is everything. I'm sure the school wants no scent of wrongdoing.

So, I'm currently thinking of some very well known 'cheerlebrities' who have gone onto ACRO at schools such as baylor & quinnipiac ... presumably on scholarships (i recall seeing photos of them signing-on). - I would imagine it is next to impossible to 'erase' their all-star past on the internet... especially with all the fan videos/edits/etc made of them back in 2010, 2011,2012, etc.

How do the NCAA rules work surrounding that?

 

[LMoody]

So, I'm currently thinking of some very well known 'cheerlebrities' who have gone onto ACRO at schools such as baylor & quinnipiac ... presumably on scholarships (i recall seeing photos of them signing-on). - I would imagine it is next to impossible to 'erase' their all-star past on the internet... especially with all the fan videos/edits/etc made of them back in 2010, 2011,2012, etc.

How do the NCAA rules work surrounding that?

I spoke with a Baylor coach recently who said there are some things that are allowed, but there are also a lot of things going on that shouldn't be. Her advice was to register with the NCAA clearinghouse as an 8th-9th grader and they will keep you informed as to what you can and can't do.

 

[DonePaying4Cheer]

So, I'm currently thinking of some very well known 'cheerlebrities' who have gone onto ACRO at schools such as baylor & quinnipiac ... presumably on scholarships (i recall seeing photos of them signing-on). - I would imagine it is next to impossible to 'erase' their all-star past on the internet... especially with all the fan videos/edits/etc made of them back in 2010, 2011,2012, etc.

How do the NCAA rules work surrounding that?

I imagine that so long as you're not still cheering or associated with the program, it should be fine. I mean you can't fault an athlete for being famous as a child. Especially if she's famous for doing what you recruited her to do.

 

[ScottyB]

I imagine that so long as you're not still cheering or associated with the program, it should be fine. I mean you can't fault an athlete for being famous as a child. Especially if she's famous for doing what you recruited her to do.

Lol try to apply that same sentiment to High School Football and Basketball players getting recruited for scholarships to play D1.

People end up losing full rides due to free meals or plane rides or even tennis shoes. There are even cases where they didn't lose their scholarship but had to pay back every penny before they could compete again.

 

[MyGirlCheers]

Since cheer and A & T are actually two different (albeit similar) things, does NCAA distinguish between sports? For example, could an athlete be a "pro" tennis player but still play NCAA volleyball? Also, since cheer isn't technically a sport, does that make a difference? I could be a "pro" scuba diver and still dive or swim for NCAA, correct?

 

[OnceUponACheerleader]

Lol try to apply that same sentiment to High School Football and Basketball players getting recruited for scholarships to play D1.

People end up losing full rides due to free meals or plane rides or even tennis shoes. There are even cases where they didn't lose their scholarship but had to pay back every penny before they could compete again.

That was what I was thinking. And I know for fact more then one of those girls have promoted a product before their all star careers were over - however @MyGirlCheers brings up a good point as well. Differentiating sports could be a loophole these athletes fall into?