All-Star Worlds Age Change???

[LateKate3]

As of now it's still up.

What video was this?

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[DonnaM]

It looks like novice is basically what used to be called Prep but non-competitive, and Prep is now limited tumbling, but more like All Star? (And Fundamentals is a once or twice a week class similar to rec gymnastics, but for cheer). I could see the new Prep divisions really taking off for older kids who don’t have the tumbling, but are capable of stunting (and maybe, just maybe, it would provide an entry point where there could be team tumbling for those older kids so they don’t have to be with the 6 yr olds!)

 

[Keep_Believing]

What video was this?

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It's not a video, just pictures of all the changes that were initially posted in the coaches area.

 

[LateKate3]

It's not a video, just pictures of all the changes that were initially posted in the coaches area.

Oh gotcha. Thank you ;)

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[Keep_Believing]

Not a complaint, but trying to make sense of it. If the two international / open level 5 teams are almost identical (maybe I am missing something) how will gyms decide which one to compete in? Any advantages over one compared to the other?

 

[luv2cheer92]

Not a complaint, but trying to make sense of it. If the two international open level 5 teams are almost identical (maybe I am missing something) how will gyms decide which one to compete in? Any advantages over one compared to the other?

One is international and one is not international. No confirmation on this, but my interpretation is that Open 5 will follow USASF rules and International will follow IASF rules. Which may bring back the basket and tumbling rules they tried to put in place earlier this season (purely speculation). And therefore, I would see most of the top teams opting to go with the non-international Open 5 divisions.

 

[Keep_Believing]

One is international and one is not international. No confirmation on this, but my interpretation is that Open 5 will follow USASF rules and International will follow IASF rules. Which may bring back the basket and tumbling rules they tried to put in place earlier this season (purely speculation). And therefore, I would see most of the top teams opting to go with the non-international Open 5 divisions.

Good information. Thanks

 

[luv2cheer92]

I also don't know if anybody else noticed in the note at the bottom of the age grid. It says that background checks are an eligibility requirement for any adults on an open team.

 

[BBinNCsMom]

I'm just a parent so take this with a grain of salt, but I think these divisions would play out the same way the other senior 5 divisions do at worlds. Instead of only the top three teams advancing to finals and then going against international teams for the globe like they do now, the best Open team would win the globe. I'm just speculating though. And they wouldn't be subject to mid season changes from IASF. They would be under USASF.

Not a complaint, but trying to make sense of it. If the two international open level 5 teams are almost identical (maybe I am missing something) how will gyms decide which one to compete in? Any advantages over one compared to the other?

 

[Keep_Believing]

@BBinNCsMom I like that!

 

[luv2cheer92]

Important to note that it would only be for level 5, there does not appear to be the same thing for Open 6. So level 6 would still be under IASF.

 

[emo_wifey]

Tiny novice: no tumbling at all period not even rolls.

Tiny novice is allowed to do cartwheels and forward rolls. The rules for tiny novice are the same as this year, also called tiny pre-team this year. I hope the rules are enforced better next year, almost every tiny novice team I have seen this year has done bridges and/or floor level building skills.

It looks like novice is basically what used to be called Prep but non-competitive, and Prep is now limited tumbling, but more like All Star? (And Fundamentals is a once or twice a week class similar to rec gymnastics, but for cheer). I could see the new Prep divisions really taking off for older kids who don’t have the tumbling, but are capable of stunting (and maybe, just maybe, it would provide an entry point where there could be team tumbling for those older kids so they don’t have to be with the 6 yr olds!)

Makes it sound like prep will be allowed to compete both days at two day comps now? I like all of the changes so far but I have a level 1 7yo.


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[BBinNCsMom]

Important to note that it would only be for level 5, there does not appear to be the same thing for Open 6. So level 6 would still be under IASF.

I noticed that too. I wonder why USASF doesn't want an open level 6? Safety? Liability? Maybe not enough teams to justify a split? I don't know. Just curious.

 

[luv2cheer92]

I noticed that too. I wonder why USASF doesn't want an open level 6? Safety? Liability? Maybe not enough teams to justify a split? I don't know. Just curious.

Idk either. But level 6 does tend to be less affected by the 3 per country rule. Still affected for sure, but I'd say less so than level 5.

 

[Keep_Believing]

Open 5 is big and growing quickly. Level 6 seems to stay really small.