Worlds Bid Question?

[Emily]

How can that be fair if you compete in an event especially one as prestigious as Worlds that teams don't follow the rules. What about receiving bids coz I heard some teams don't even compete to receive a bid

Well, I don't know whether teams from Germany follow these rules or not. BUT the only world bids giving event is in late May /early June. You don't even know your teams roster for next season by then, because our season ususally starts in July/August. So you get your bid a year early and I can understand that its difficult to get a bid in May for worlds almost a year later and then go there with the exact same team. Plus, we can't even compete in the division we qualified in because we got different divisions here than there are in the US.
Please take these circumstances into account when you think that its "unfair".

 

[flipmac]

How can that be fair if you compete in an event especially one as prestigious as Worlds that teams don't follow the rules. What about receiving bids coz I heard some teams don't even compete to receive a bid

yeah its even possible to just submit a video entry... dont even need to compete to get a bid... its pretty redic... my team competed with 24, we did use subs,,,, and got a legit bid... so were doing everythign the way the US would... even though we dont need too

 

[Ashley]

How can that be fair if you compete in an event especially one as prestigious as Worlds that teams don't follow the rules. What about receiving bids coz I heard some teams don't even compete to receive a bid

Because IASF wants more international teams at Worlds? So they're more lenient in the rules for them?

 

[Fantasticheer]

yeah its even possible to just submit a video entry... dont even need to compete to get a bid... its pretty redic... my team competed with 24, we did use subs,,,, and got a legit bid... so were doing everythign the way the US would... even though we dont need too

I think USASF need to put out different rules for international teams so they all play fairly. I understand affordability, different rules in their own country particularly age cut off & season differences. But if countries like Australia have 5 or 6 teams attending shouldn't they ALL be following the same principles. Some teams are put together from a bid winning club as the original bid winning team following the rules for substitutes and the max number that competed on the floor and other clubs don't even compete, don't have a Bid and take a team that is organized from multiple clubs to have the strongest athletes. Now that's not fair is it?

 

[flipmac]

I think USASF need to put out different rules for international teams so they all play fairly. I understand affordability, different rules in their own country particularly age cut off & season differences. But if countries like Australia have 5 or 6 teams attending shouldn't they ALL be following the same principles. Some teams are put together from a bid winning club as the original bid winning team following the rules for substitutes and the max number that competed on the floor and other clubs don't even compete, don't have a Bid and take a team that is organized from multiple clubs to have the strongest athletes. Now that's not fair is it?

story of my life down here...

 

[kaileymc]

What if a team has an injured athlete that isn't able to perform at the bid awarding event, but is healed and ready to go by worlds? Are they not allowed to compete at worlds since it wouldn't be the same number of athletes as at the bid competition?

 

[ACEDAD]

What if a team has an injured athlete that isn't able to perform at the bid awarding event, but is healed and ready to go by worlds? Are they not allowed to compete at worlds since it wouldn't be the same number of athletes as at the bid competition?

They cannot compete at Worlds with more athletes than were on the floor when they won the bid.

 

[Ashley]

What if a team has an injured athlete that isn't able to perform at the bid awarding event, but is healed and ready to go by worlds? Are they not allowed to compete at worlds since it wouldn't be the same number of athletes as at the bid competition?

If they replaced that athlete with an alternate, then yes, he or she could compete at Worlds if the alternate doesn't. But if they left a blank spot, then no. But most coaches should be aware of the rules surrounding Worlds and bids and would probably plan accordingly at a bid-giving competition. You could have a girl squat in the back for the whole routine and front spot a stunt and she would count as a person.

 

[Deleted member 15]

What would happen if I registered and paid for the injured person at the bid event, but they didn't physically go on the mat?

 

[SharkDad]

What would happen if I registered and paid for the injured person at the bid event, but they didn't physically go on the mat?

Did anyone notice? The Worlds bids as well as alternates and substations rules reference athletes "on the floor" at the bid winning event

 

[NJ Coach]

What would happen if I registered and paid for the injured person at the bid event, but they didn't physically go on the mat?

I'd literally make someone nugget the entire routine in the back of the mat so I could compete with a full team at worlds.

 

[SharkDad]

Did anyone notice? The Worlds bids as well as alternates and substations rules reference athletes "on the floor" at the bid winning event

substitutions - Sorry, if you haven't noticed already, my spelling is horrible on an iPad, phone, anything without a keyboard that tries to create words for me.

 

[idrive]

Because IASF wants more international teams at Worlds? So they're more lenient in the rules for them?

I don't think they are trying to be more lenient but they understand the differences that exist in the US and other countries when it comes to All Star Cheer. We have a wealth of gyms to train at where they may not be so lucky in other countries. Right now the US pretty well has the market cornered in All Star. The ultimate goal, from what I hear, is to some day get this in the Olympics which won't happen when it appears one country has a definative advantage over all the others.

 

[idrive]

substitutions - Sorry, if you haven't noticed already, my spelling is horrible on an iPad, phone, anything without a keyboard that tries to create words for me.

Blame it on the autofill. Thats what I do.

 

[Ashley]

I don't think they are trying to be more lenient but they understand the differences that exist in the US and other countries when it comes to All Star Cheer. We have a wealth of gyms to train at where they may not be so lucky in other countries. Right now the US pretty well has the market cornered in All Star. The ultimate goal, from what I hear, is to some day get this in the Olympics which won't happen when it appears one country has a definative advantage over all the others.

I don't think your argument shows how they're not being lenient. I agree with you on everything you said, but I still think they're being more lenient with the rules for international teams because they want to give the international teams any chance they can. The only way the sport can grow internationally is by getting more international teams involved, and if that means the IASF has to turn a cheek to a few infractions, then so be it.